Question about idling on the ramp?
04-03-2008 | 07:18 PM
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04-03-2008 | 07:19 PM
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I'll say that I don't think that checklists in the military are built for speed. I've watch some of the bizjets in the local airports start taxiing in an amazingly short period of time. I saw one that seem to be around 4 minutes from the time they closed the door until they were outbound. I was amazed. I don't even have both engines on line in that amount of time.
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04-04-2008 | 09:15 PM
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Maybe I'm already planning around some weather. Maybe I'm practicing my airways navigation. Maybe I've already called FOE and made sure that lunch will be served.
I'll say that I don't think that checklists in the military are built for speed. I've watch some of the bizjets in the local airports start taxiing in an amazingly short period of time. I saw one that seem to be around 4 minutes from the time they closed the door until they were outbound. I was amazed. I don't even have both engines on line in that amount of time.
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I'll say that I don't think that checklists in the military are built for speed. I've watch some of the bizjets in the local airports start taxiing in an amazingly short period of time. I saw one that seem to be around 4 minutes from the time they closed the door until they were outbound. I was amazed. I don't even have both engines on line in that amount of time.
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Throw in getting a change to your filed route from clearance delivery, and you know a single seat guy is going to take a while opening charts and trying to enter new waypoints he didnt' plan on. Of course, that doesn't answer for a T-1.
If you really didn't like being behind a turbine on the ramp, it seems the best thing to do would be to ask the line guys not to park you behind jets on the line. Then you wouldn't have to worry about it. I don't think I've ever been parked where there was another aircraft directly behind my tail (except on the carrier).
04-05-2008 | 06:09 AM
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I didn't realize a T-1 had INS....
I don't have a lot of control over where I am parked. The FBO drags me around. When I was doing air ambulance...there were so many military aircraft in CRP that they had to park them in front of my plane. There was no where else to park, but there was plenty of room to sit and do takeoff checks in the non-movement area. I have spoken with the FBO as well, but parking and starting isn't the problem, thats something we all do....Its idling for extended periods on a crowded ramp that is the problem.
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I don't have a lot of control over where I am parked. The FBO drags me around. When I was doing air ambulance...there were so many military aircraft in CRP that they had to park them in front of my plane. There was no where else to park, but there was plenty of room to sit and do takeoff checks in the non-movement area. I have spoken with the FBO as well, but parking and starting isn't the problem, thats something we all do....Its idling for extended periods on a crowded ramp that is the problem.
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04-05-2008 | 07:16 AM
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It's been a while since I flew the T-1 but wasn't the anti-ice checks done with the engine RPM at a certain rage above idle? That could have been it. I do know this, the USAF takes what would have been a fine set of manufacturers checklists and throws them out and makes their own for jets that are civilian conversions. I spoke with a Beechcraft guy a while back and he said that the AF added so many steps to the checklist that it just added the amount of time needed to get the airplane flying. The funniest part of that was the fuel system checks, opening and closing valves and such, which he said were all designed to be fail-op anyway. Just wearing out perfectly good valves etc...
04-05-2008 | 07:37 AM
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Even you must remember that the wing/eng anti-ice checks we did above idle were done in the hammerhead. We checked the electric stuff in the chocks...
...must have bounced off a chunk of hail at some point in your past that messed up your memory
Have fun w/ Barney, and may you have a lunch and back again soon.
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04-05-2008 | 08:02 AM
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Even you must remember that the wing/eng anti-ice checks we did above idle were done in the hammerhead. We checked the electric stuff in the chocks...
...must have bounced off a chunk of hail at some point in your past that messed up your memory
Have fun w/ Barney, and may you have a lunch and back again soon.
Beaker
Even you must remember that the wing/eng anti-ice checks we did above idle were done in the hammerhead. We checked the electric stuff in the chocks...
...must have bounced off a chunk of hail at some point in your past that messed up your memory
Have fun w/ Barney, and may you have a lunch and back again soon.
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04-05-2008 | 12:38 PM
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04-06-2008 | 01:38 PM
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Even you must remember that the wing/eng anti-ice checks we did above idle were done in the hammerhead. We checked the electric stuff in the chocks...
...must have bounced off a chunk of hail at some point in your past that messed up your memory
Have fun w/ Barney, and may you have a lunch and back again soon.
Beaker
Even you must remember that the wing/eng anti-ice checks we did above idle were done in the hammerhead. We checked the electric stuff in the chocks...
...must have bounced off a chunk of hail at some point in your past that messed up your memory
Have fun w/ Barney, and may you have a lunch and back again soon.
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