Advice for son-in-law USAF to Guard?
05-11-2006, 08:13 PM
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Advice for son-in-law USAF to Guard?
I have a early 20's son-in-law that is active duty ASAF. E-3 maybe E-4 crew chief on C-130 at Hurlbert Fiefd, FL. I believe he has been in about 1.5 years. I have heard that it is possible to transfer to the guard from active duty AF. Does anyone know if this is true? Is it a simple thing? He wants to fly eventually, and is getting his PPL at a military club at Eglin AFB. He feels the AF is not taking him in the direction he wants to go and thinks a guard unit would be more his style. There is a guard unit in Boise, Idaho that he would like to consider but where does he start? Is he stuck with his 4 remaining years where he is or are there realistic options in the guard. Thanks for any specific info.
05-12-2006, 02:19 PM
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Your son-in-law has two options:
1) Apply for Palace Chase, he will transfer his enlistment commitment over to the Air National Guard but that will require him to double his time left with the guard, i.e. a 4 year contract with 2 years served would require a 4 year deal with the guard unit picking him up. The Air Force is looking to let go around 44k people in the next coming years, so this is a viable option.
2) Apply for a service commitment waiver. What this means is your son-in-law can file the appropriate forms and walk away from the government owing them nothing. He keeps his bonus (if he got one) and his GI Bill. This is a better option because once you walk away you’re a civilian and then can apply to any guard unit. Also, if he decided to join the guard, he wouldn’t have to double his contract or attend basic training again.
Both of those options are going to require the Commanders signature on the forms with their approval/disapproval stamp. Even if the Commander says no, he or she doesn’t have the final word on if you get out or not. Randolph AFB and the career field manager make that call.
The guard unit in ID might not have any openings, so it wouldn’t hurt to apply for both.
Have you son-in-law stop by the MPF and see the Air National Guard in service recruiter. He could apply for Palace Front (active duty to reserve status) but the Reserves won’t pay tuition assistance, just the GI Bill. If he goes guard he can get both the GI Bill and state funded TA, it’s a sweet deal.
If you have any more questions, let me know and I'll give you my e-mail address so I can walk you through the process. GOOD LUCK
1) Apply for Palace Chase, he will transfer his enlistment commitment over to the Air National Guard but that will require him to double his time left with the guard, i.e. a 4 year contract with 2 years served would require a 4 year deal with the guard unit picking him up. The Air Force is looking to let go around 44k people in the next coming years, so this is a viable option.
2) Apply for a service commitment waiver. What this means is your son-in-law can file the appropriate forms and walk away from the government owing them nothing. He keeps his bonus (if he got one) and his GI Bill. This is a better option because once you walk away you’re a civilian and then can apply to any guard unit. Also, if he decided to join the guard, he wouldn’t have to double his contract or attend basic training again.
Both of those options are going to require the Commanders signature on the forms with their approval/disapproval stamp. Even if the Commander says no, he or she doesn’t have the final word on if you get out or not. Randolph AFB and the career field manager make that call.
The guard unit in ID might not have any openings, so it wouldn’t hurt to apply for both.
Have you son-in-law stop by the MPF and see the Air National Guard in service recruiter. He could apply for Palace Front (active duty to reserve status) but the Reserves won’t pay tuition assistance, just the GI Bill. If he goes guard he can get both the GI Bill and state funded TA, it’s a sweet deal.
If you have any more questions, let me know and I'll give you my e-mail address so I can walk you through the process. GOOD LUCK
05-17-2006, 08:10 AM
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jacobsos is right in just about everything.
However, the ANG does allow your son-in-law to use Montgomery GI Bill benefits. In addition, some states will pay full tuition to in-state colleges/universities if he decides to become an officer. But that's more likely in the ARNG (Army National Guard) than the ANG. That also depends upon each state. State tuition benefits usually do not cover flight training.
I used Montgomery GI Bill benefits (Chpt. 106) in 1993-1994 to obtain instrument and multi-engine instructor certificates. It does work.
If he wants to use those benefits at a military flying club, he might want to stay in the vicinity of an installation which has such a club. The military club prices are noticeably lower than non-military flight schools. I suspect there's no military flying club in Boise, Idaho. I used one at Quantico MCAS and was a member of the Army National Guard when I joined.
Good luck!
However, the ANG does allow your son-in-law to use Montgomery GI Bill benefits. In addition, some states will pay full tuition to in-state colleges/universities if he decides to become an officer. But that's more likely in the ARNG (Army National Guard) than the ANG. That also depends upon each state. State tuition benefits usually do not cover flight training.
I used Montgomery GI Bill benefits (Chpt. 106) in 1993-1994 to obtain instrument and multi-engine instructor certificates. It does work.
If he wants to use those benefits at a military flying club, he might want to stay in the vicinity of an installation which has such a club. The military club prices are noticeably lower than non-military flight schools. I suspect there's no military flying club in Boise, Idaho. I used one at Quantico MCAS and was a member of the Army National Guard when I joined.
Good luck!
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