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Old 06-03-2009 | 10:20 AM
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Put all of your change in your left leg pocket, take out line badge and attach to patch on right sleeve, put baseball cap on backwards, chew a piece of gum, wiggle your toes a bit, and most important - close one eye. Its worked for me over the past few years and I can't change the way I do it now. Oh yeah, remember the tanker has the gas you need, so they are the ones on the correct course, track, altitude, etc. Best of luck and remember it's not fun until you need 100K, tanker autopilot inop, night, wx, no moon, and light to moderate bumps. That plug will drain you...
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Old 06-03-2009 | 10:47 AM
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The above advice works for geting rid of the shanks as well.

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Old 06-03-2009 | 11:59 AM
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Tanker guys can find cloud tops--where we are in the clear while the aircraft on the boom is on instruments. Same with turbulence and icing.
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Old 06-03-2009 | 02:44 PM
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The worst tanker dudes are the guys that try to maintain +/- 10' and +/- 5 kts. The tail is all over the place as they pitch to maintain altitude and the throttles never stabilize. The good ones are the guys that accept +/- 200' or 300' and 10 to 15 kts in order to maintain a smooth platform.
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Old 06-03-2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LivingInMEM
The worst tanker dudes are the guys that try to maintain +/- 10' and +/- 5 kts. The tail is all over the place as they pitch to maintain altitude and the throttles never stabilize. The good ones are the guys that accept +/- 200' or 300' and 10 to 15 kts in order to maintain a smooth platform.
I'm betting a lot of these are getting training or a check ride.

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Old 06-03-2009 | 04:06 PM
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Most terrifying moment: When the new R-model digital autopilot suddenly kicks off when you're in contact. Holy crap, that will wake you up! Happened to me twice in 23 years.
Digital Autopilot!!! Thats the best thing I have heard today. You all would be frightened to know what that thing is really like!


Just as they parked the aircraft in the contact position, the tanker pilot, who after receiving a crossing altitude restriction by point RADDS, decided to immediately (without notice to us) pull power to idle, extend full speedbrakes, and started a push over manuever (probably using IAS hold) in order to meet the crossing restriction --- all because he didn't want to get violated.
You gucci boys with your IAS hold! HA

Anyways being a tanker toad, I don't have any advice for you really. But I will say good luck to you and I'll see you over STOOL sometime.
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Old 06-03-2009 | 06:09 PM
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A couple of shots of Jack at the ARIP should calm your nerves.
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Old 06-03-2009 | 07:12 PM
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90% of AR is confidence. Also, read your 3-3 if the C-5 has one. It's got a bunch of good TTP from old heads.
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Old 06-04-2009 | 08:04 AM
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Jack at the IP- just no coke Or RedBull- I had a pilot pound a Redbull 20 mins prior to the BSDx- couldn't cage the eyeballs and I got to grab the gas for them. It wasn't my OME either....

C-17 heavy- read up the annex on the C-17 in the ATP 56- it should scare off most KC-135 boomers from letting us anywhere closer then the picture here.
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Old 06-04-2009 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MoosePileit
Jack at the IP- just no coke Or RedBull- I had a pilot pound a Redbull 20 mins prior to the BSDx- couldn't cage the eyeballs and I got to grab the gas for them. It wasn't my OME either....

C-17 heavy- read up the annex on the C-17 in the ATP 56- it should scare off most KC-135 boomers from letting us anywhere closer then the picture here.
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Funny post. Did you know that the C-17 pushes the KC-10 around more so than the C-5? (IMO) I guess the C-17 has a bigger bow wave.

The C-17 has some very intersting resonance characteristics during AR. First, the tail wiggles (probably the turbies from #2). Second, the engines wiggle. Third, the wing flexes up and down end-to-end and it warps (or twists) from the weight of the engines pulling forward and down, so much so, it causes the winglets to visibly move forward. It's pretty cool.
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