A/R Buffoonery
06-03-2009, 10:20 AM
#11
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: MadDogx4, Boeingx2
Posts: 109
Put all of your change in your left leg pocket, take out line badge and attach to patch on right sleeve, put baseball cap on backwards, chew a piece of gum, wiggle your toes a bit, and most important - close one eye. Its worked for me over the past few years and I can't change the way I do it now. Oh yeah, remember the tanker has the gas you need, so they are the ones on the correct course, track, altitude, etc. Best of luck and remember it's not fun until you need 100K, tanker autopilot inop, night, wx, no moon, and light to moderate bumps. That plug will drain you...
06-03-2009, 02:44 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 829
The worst tanker dudes are the guys that try to maintain +/- 10' and +/- 5 kts. The tail is all over the place as they pitch to maintain altitude and the throttles never stabilize. The good ones are the guys that accept +/- 200' or 300' and 10 to 15 kts in order to maintain a smooth platform.
06-03-2009, 03:32 PM
#15
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: 747 Captain (Ret,)
Posts: 804
Originally Posted by LivingInMEM
The worst tanker dudes are the guys that try to maintain +/- 10' and +/- 5 kts. The tail is all over the place as they pitch to maintain altitude and the throttles never stabilize. The good ones are the guys that accept +/- 200' or 300' and 10 to 15 kts in order to maintain a smooth platform.
Joe
06-03-2009, 04:06 PM
#16
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: KC-135T
Posts: 274
Most terrifying moment: When the new R-model digital autopilot suddenly kicks off when you're in contact. Holy crap, that will wake you up! Happened to me twice in 23 years.
Just as they parked the aircraft in the contact position, the tanker pilot, who after receiving a crossing altitude restriction by point RADDS, decided to immediately (without notice to us) pull power to idle, extend full speedbrakes, and started a push over manuever (probably using IAS hold) in order to meet the crossing restriction --- all because he didn't want to get violated.
Anyways being a tanker toad, I don't have any advice for you really. But I will say good luck to you and I'll see you over STOOL sometime.
06-04-2009, 08:04 AM
#19
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: The IPA EB speaks for me
Posts: 520
Jack at the IP- just no coke Or RedBull- I had a pilot pound a Redbull 20 mins prior to the BSDx- couldn't cage the eyeballs and I got to grab the gas for them. It wasn't my OME either....
C-17 heavy- read up the annex on the C-17 in the ATP 56- it should scare off most KC-135 boomers from letting us anywhere closer then the picture here.
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C-17 heavy- read up the annex on the C-17 in the ATP 56- it should scare off most KC-135 boomers from letting us anywhere closer then the picture here.
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06-04-2009, 03:18 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Legacy FO
Posts: 4,096
Originally Posted by MoosePileit
Jack at the IP- just no coke Or RedBull- I had a pilot pound a Redbull 20 mins prior to the BSDx- couldn't cage the eyeballs and I got to grab the gas for them. It wasn't my OME either....
C-17 heavy- read up the annex on the C-17 in the ATP 56- it should scare off most KC-135 boomers from letting us anywhere closer then the picture here.
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C-17 heavy- read up the annex on the C-17 in the ATP 56- it should scare off most KC-135 boomers from letting us anywhere closer then the picture here.
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The C-17 has some very intersting resonance characteristics during AR. First, the tail wiggles (probably the turbies from #2). Second, the engines wiggle. Third, the wing flexes up and down end-to-end and it warps (or twists) from the weight of the engines pulling forward and down, so much so, it causes the winglets to visibly move forward. It's pretty cool.
