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Old 04-22-2010 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by meeko031
Really, I thought he was forced to take a leave while seeking therapy.
Everything I know about AMR tells me they would do their darndest to fire him under these circumstances...they have no tolerance for weakness, and certainly would not want the embarrassment of follow-up news stories after TM is "cured" and returns to flight status.
Old 04-22-2010 | 12:04 PM
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Any news from ALPA on this, since it has all hit the fan??
Old 04-22-2010 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ndarmour
Any news from ALPA on this, since it has all hit the fan??
They retracted the story and then dove into a deep bunker, been there ever since...probably sharing the same one that timmy's in.
Old 04-22-2010 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Everything I know about AMR tells me they would do their darndest to fire him under these circumstances...they have no tolerance for weakness, and certainly would not want the embarrassment of follow-up news stories after TM is "cured" and returns to flight status.
You're right, he is gone. It says "resign" on his file. Good luck finding a new career, tm
Old 04-22-2010 | 11:50 PM
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The monthly “Code of Ethics” series in Air Line Pilot was developed last summer to combat the public scrutiny of our profession. It was meant as a way to honor all ALPA members who carry out the duties and responsibilities of airline pilots with the highest respect for the safety of their passengers and crew. Most importantly, ALPA intended to highlight a pilot’s approach to upholding the professional values in our Code of Ethics that this Association has held sacred for almost 80 years. While it might be easy to abandon this series due to a recent mischaracterization, we cannot ignore the fact that the vast majority of our nearly 53,000 members demonstrate the highest level of professionalism in their jobs and in their cockpits as they interact with other crewmembers, employees, and passengers. Frankly, there are just too many positive examples among our professional members not to share the stories, the viewpoints, and the personal attitudes that exemplify what it is to be an airline pilot and motivate others to achieve high professional standards.

After making adjustments to the selection process, we hope to feature members who positively showcase our profession. ALPA is committed to ensuring that all future pilot profiles will truthfully represent the core values that are contained in ALPA’s Code of Ethics.

After the April magazine was printed and mailed, we were made aware that information in the pilot profile was inaccurate. We immediately asked the pilot if the information regarding his military activity for the New
Jersey Air National Guard was correct, and he assured us that the information in the magazine was factual. However, when checking with the 177th operations group commander, he informed us that the information
was false—the pilot was neither a member of the 177th Fighter Wing nor the 119th Fighter Squadron. When given the assignment to interview the candidate selected for the “Code of Ethics” role model, we used the
nomination form as the basis for the interview with the pilot and for the text in the article. Conversations with this pilot disclosed a lot about his life, and it was his choice to release such a significant amount of information on his life outside of his ALPA professional flying career and his union volunteer work.

It is not our practice to fact check ALPA members because we do not work from the premise that our members are giving us misinformation. We don’t know the extent to which this pilot fabricated facts about his life;
however, this incident will lead to changes in our review procedures because we are committed to providing only facts, not embellishments or misstatements.

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Capt. John Rosenberg
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Capt. John Sluys
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Originally Posted by ndarmour
Any news from ALPA on this, since it has all hit the fan??
Old 04-23-2010 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by HSLD
"...we are committed to providing only facts, not embellishments or misstatements."
Baloney. One of the reasons my ALPA mag goes straight to the trash every month and all my ALPA emails are tagged as spam is because I became incredibly sick and tired of their primary school quality arguments and embellishments of what ALPA is "doing for me". ALPA members are an extremely high quality, well educated group of professionals. It is an insult that the union that represents them apparently assumes they don't have the intelligence and a strong enough ability to make rational decisions without a steady pummeling of propaganda that is so over the top most of the members I know simply throw it away.
This quote is particularly ironic "It is not our practice to fact check ALPA members because we do not work from the premise that our members are giving us misinformation." Unfortunately, it is grossly apparent that ALPA members cannot afford that same luxury when considering the products of their union.

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Old 04-23-2010 | 08:49 AM
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Thanx, HSLD. Appreciate that. The things that make you go Hmmmmm. No apology, just a covering of the old arse, per se
Old 04-23-2010 | 06:07 PM
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Thanks, Tom, for sending me your only copy of that ALPA rag. It arrived today.

And thanks to everyone else who offered to send me theirs. I only need/want one copy. That picture of TM is just priceless. I mean, if I had that look on my face, pointing a flashlight in broad daylight, I know my useful life has come to an end.

Other than the momentary entertainment value of this one article, I can see why everybody throws their copy into the trash bin each month.

This whole mess is just so sad.
Old 04-23-2010 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by vagabond
Thanks, Tom, for sending me your only copy of that ALPA rag. It arrived today.

And thanks to everyone else who offered to send me theirs. I only need/want one copy. That picture of TM is just priceless. I mean, if I had that look on my face, pointing a flashlight in broad daylight, I know my useful life has come to an end.

Other than the momentary entertainment value of this one article, I can see why everybody throws their copy into the trash bin each month.

This whole mess is just so sad.
Will you be framing that picture and posting it in the coffee shop offering a free latte if anyone can tell you what is WRONG with that picture???
At least you would know if a pilot walked in!

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Old 04-23-2010 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Will you be framing that picture and posting it in the coffee shop offering a free latte if anyone can tell you what is WRONG with that picture???
At least you would know if a pilot walked in!

USMCFLYR
I would drive up from the Bay Area just to see that.
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