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Old 04-19-2010, 11:13 AM
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Pretty standard that your Airmen NOTAM EVERYTHING, but this one made me laugh.

Watch those low transitions 1/4 mile off centerline gents.

M0084/10 - OBSTACLE HAZARD. UNLIT OBSTACLE. SEVEN (7) FOOT TALL PERIMETERFENCE LOCATED 1200 FEET EAST OF RUNWAY CENTERLINE IN NORTHERN RUNWAYCLEAR ZONE AND EXTENDING TO A LOCATION 1200 FEET WEST OF RUNWAYCENTERLINE IN NORTHERN RUNWAY CLEAR ZONE; CONTACT AIRFIELD MANAGERFOR DETAILS. 01 MAR 13:19 2010 UNTIL 29 MAY 06:00 2010. CREATED: 01 MAR 13:222010


Just to spread the love, here's a USN one on my same sheet of paper. Plan your crashes accordingly.

M0209/10 - SAR UNAVAILABLE MONDAY THOUGH THURSDAY AND NON-FLEX FRIDAYS FROM
0300-1500(Z). FLEX FRIDAYS AND WEEKENDS SAR UNAVAILABLE UNTIL FURTHER
NOTICE. 19 APR 17:05 2010 UNTIL 19 JUN 15:00 2010. CREATED: 19 APR 17:09 2010
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I'd bet there are some guys out there that would benefit from that notam

YouTube - Best Of Low Pass Jet Fighters

As a disclaimer, the best you'll ever do is tie for the lowest pass.
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The first one sounds like the Blues are in town
Watch out for the fence off the end of the runway!

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During the video (58 sec) one of the guys is futzing with a dial. How in earth can he be mucking with switchology and flying that low.

Is he: using a radar altimeter autopilot, the PNF, or just that good?
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Another great low flying video w/ better music IMO.

YouTube - fly

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Originally Posted by Grumble View Post
Pretty standard that your Airmen NOTAM EVERYTHING, but this one made me laugh.

Watch those low transitions 1/4 mile off centerline gents.

M0084/10 - OBSTACLE HAZARD. UNLIT OBSTACLE. SEVEN (7) FOOT TALL PERIMETERFENCE LOCATED 1200 FEET EAST OF RUNWAY CENTERLINE IN NORTHERN RUNWAYCLEAR ZONE AND EXTENDING TO A LOCATION 1200 FEET WEST OF RUNWAYCENTERLINE IN NORTHERN RUNWAY CLEAR ZONE; CONTACT AIRFIELD MANAGERFOR DETAILS. 01 MAR 13:19 2010 UNTIL 29 MAY 06:00 2010. CREATED: 01 MAR 13:222010


Just to spread the love, here's a USN one on my same sheet of paper. Plan your crashes accordingly.

M0209/10 - SAR UNAVAILABLE MONDAY THOUGH THURSDAY AND NON-FLEX FRIDAYS FROM
0300-1500(Z). FLEX FRIDAYS AND WEEKENDS SAR UNAVAILABLE UNTIL FURTHER
NOTICE. 19 APR 17:05 2010 UNTIL 19 JUN 15:00 2010. CREATED: 19 APR 17:09 2010
I'm all for a good military service ribbing now and then. Unlit fencing? Yeah, over dramatic. The airfield manager is a government employee, not military.

Here's one for you. I was flying a flight from CVG to FLL. We had a jumpseater. The other two pilots were asking me questions about air refueling .. blah blah blah. I told them how it was better to work with the Navy/USMC because they cut with the bullcrap. However, you gotta watch them closely or they'll try to kill you.

Just as I was giving some examples, ATC tells us of a P-3 flying VFR and that the traffic doesn't appear to be a conflict but we can deviate as necessary as we are descending on the arrival. We acquire the P-3 flying the same direction, low, off to our left. The P-3 starts a right turn into our flight path with us descending on top. They call out "traffic, we'll maintain visual separation". (yeah yeah). The CA tells me, "you better turn left or they're going to ... " interupted by TCAS RA, Climb Climb.

So after we miss the P-3, I yelled out "see, that's what I'm talking about. I hate that ****. They always do that." The jumpseater at this point is bursting at the seams and dieing to say something. I look at him and say ... "let me guess, you're Navy" and he shakes his head. hahaha
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Originally Posted by N9373M View Post
During the video (58 sec) one of the guys is futzing with a dial. How in earth can he be mucking with switchology and flying that low.

Is he: using a radar altimeter autopilot, the PNF, or just that good?
It is called MULTI-TASKING

Nah...seriously - can't tell how low he is (though obviously low), but at 200' you have 3 seconds of time to accomplish other tasks for your mission cross check time. At least he is "mucking" with something on what I would call an Up-Front control - right in front of him and he can mess with his dials and still keep a look out the HUD!

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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
It is called MULTI-TASKING

Nah...seriously - can't tell how low he is (though obviously low), but at 200' you have 3 seconds of time to accomplish other tasks for your mission cross check time. At least he is "mucking" with something on what I would call an Up-Front control - right in front of him and he can mess with his dials and still keep a look out the HUD!

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I'd bet there are some guys out there that would benefit from that notam

YouTube - Best Of Low Pass Jet Fighters

As a disclaimer, the best you'll ever do is tie for the lowest pass.
Glad to see the French are keeping their low level retreat skills honed.
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I don't know how it is now, but a number of years ago the first day at Red Flag was a 500 foot day. No one was supposed to fly below that altitude on the ranges. Of course boys will be boys and so we thought we'd fly at 100 feet to try and swallow up our shadows. The A-10 has a really big shadow, which can be seen forever. Anyway, we're operating a 4-ship at 100 feet, when all of a sudden a flight of 2 F-5's come under us at no higher than 50 feet. That was it. For the rest of the exercise, we never got above 100 feet, except to take off and land, or when we were in the gunnery pattern. You get really good at managing the jet down low, however you have to be looking out the front all the damn time.

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I don't know how it is now, but a number of years ago the first day at Red Flag was a 500 foot day. No one was supposed to fly below that altitude on the ranges. Of course boys will be boys and so we thought we'd fly at 100 feet to try and swallow up our shadows. The A-10 has a really big shadow, which can be seen forever. Anyway, we're operating a 4-ship at 100 feet, when all of a sudden a flight of 2 F-5's come under us at no higher than 50 feet. That was it. For the rest of the exercise, we never got above 100 feet, except to take off and land, or when we were in the gunnery pattern. You get really good at managing the jet down low, however you have to be looking out the front all the damn time.

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There is (supposedly) a mountain out in that range (actually a hill) that's named after a Kansas ANG Hun pilot that tied the record for low level flying. Legend has it that, since he had no family, his ,half in the bag, squadron mates put his ashes in a plain bucket and attempted to throw him out the open cargo doors of a C-47 over said mountain. Rumor has it, they were combing him out of their hair for a week.
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