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07-16-2010 | 01:23 PM

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here's a question, I'm 8 years enlisted, does that factor into the pay scale or is it time since commissioning?

with 4 or more years prior service you'll be an O-1E. So different payscale until you get to O-4. O-1E, O-2E, O-3E when you're looking at the DFAS chart, under whatever your years of service are.

07-16-2010 | 02:11 PM

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You'll only get the O-1E paygrade if you had at greater than 4 years of active duty enlisted (read 4 years + 1 day of active duty or 1461 points). If you were a traditional Guard or Reserve bum for those 8 years and have less that 1461 points, you'll won't get O-1E. As for flight pay, if you were an enlisted flyer (Loadmaster, Boomer, etc) your prior flight status doesn't count. You start over at 0 years for flight pay purposes.

07-16-2010 | 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Saint

here's a question, I'm 8 years enlisted, does that factor into the pay scale or is it time since commissioning?

Yes, look at these charts:
http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/mili...PayTable34.pdf

Depending on how many reserve points you have (1460) or if you've been active duty > 4 years, then Note 3 applies, and you would fall under the O-1 (note 3) scale for your time in service (8 years) and your base pay would be $3825/month (instead of about 2,700 or so).

07-16-2010 | 07:42 PM

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I'm sorry, but with 8 years prior service, you can't figure out your pay and you were able to get a pilot slot?

07-17-2010 | 01:33 AM

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Check here: http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/mili...PayTable34.pdf
I would have thought a future USAF/ANG pilot could have googled this himself though.

If your implying I have poor research skills you are incorrect. There are many factors that go into UPT pay that I do not understand because they have not been explained to me and there is not alot information out there. Thus a normal pay chart, like what is all over the web, does not explain factors like flight pay, training allowances, food and housing pay, how many days i will be paid for per month, and so on.

07-17-2010 | 01:42 AM

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Thanks for the help guys. There are so many factors that go into what you actually take homw that it can be complcated. I have a friend that just went through AMS and she is still not sure what she should be making. I figured you prior service guys wouls have some good insight on it and I was right.

If you have any more comments please keep them coming. I appreciate all the help I can get.

07-17-2010 | 08:13 AM

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Couldnt you have just told him it was about $328 a month as you remember it?

I think it was more like $428 a month LAG...you forgot the $100/month flight pay.

07-18-2010 | 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustangcbra

If you have any more comments please keep them coming. I appreciate all the help I can get.

Enjoy your wealth in flight school. I had more pocket money as a single O-1 flight student in the mid-80s than I do as a married with kids captain for a major airline in 2010.

07-18-2010 | 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustangcbra

If your implying I have poor research skills you are incorrect. There are many factors that go into UPT pay that I do not understand because they have not been explained to me and there is not alot information out there. Thus a normal pay chart, like what is all over the web, does not explain factors like flight pay, training allowances, food and housing pay, how many days i will be paid for per month, and so on.

I spent 3 1/2 years as an IP(2004-2007) and I still hear the same thing from other instructors....students have no ability to learn on their own, always needing to be spoon fed. Yeah, he implied that your inability to figure it out on your own is sad, and yet spot on.

07-19-2010 | 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by arjmjj

Aren't you being a little hard on the Beaver, Ward?

It's not like there are other LTs in pilot training, at the base he'll be going to, getting paid twice a month RIGHT NOW. Those guys are completely unreachable by phone or DSN because there's no mil phone book on line for that base. I'm sure he could never reach anyone in the T-6 squadron, play dumb and ask for a phone number to reach any UPT student that might be available and get the info from the horse's mouth.

Or, I'm sure no one at the MPF at that base in the mil pay section would know the answer. They might even be able to narrow down the housing allowance variable.

Nahhhh - better to wait to have things "explained".