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crewdawg 07-21-2010 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 844167)
Easy there buddy... there are more than enough people on here with friends at all your potential UPT bases that can crush your dreams before you ever get started. Anonymous, you are not.

Really....what are we, a bunch of adolescent girls?:rolleyes:

Adlerdriver 07-21-2010 08:04 PM

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Grumble 07-21-2010 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 844399)
Really....what are we, a bunch of adolescent girls?:rolleyes:

YES! On a serious note, yes I've seen guys get a burr up their ass and make habitually disrespectful/belligerent internet posters work a little harder in training. Internet toughness run wild I guess. Haven't heard of anyone actually washed out, but guys have showed up day one unknowingly wearing a bulls eye.

ExAF 07-22-2010 07:09 AM

Wow
 
I go away for a few days and missed all this? Wow! I predict a long row to hoe in UPT for Mustang C Bra. BTW is that a cup size in your screen name? :D Just kidding....don't get your panties in a wad...just having a little fun and doing another test on your skin thickness. I really am not a Dick. ;)

PS. "C cup" or "C bra" just might make a good call sign for a newbie pilot. What do you think?

TwoDogs 07-23-2010 09:31 PM

Stretching Stupidity
 
Calling people, Dick over your asinine questions?

TwoDogs 07-23-2010 09:34 PM

Stretching Stupidity
 
What a waste of electrons. Don't worry, folks this is self-correcting. Apparently we have Orville's descendant amongst us. Clue, if you haven't done the math on the fact you received one of the most vaunted slots in the orbit of American aviation combined with the realism of readily accessible pay charts means if I see you at solo or much less getting winged it will be a day too long for us military aviators.

Who cares what you make? The fact we, the American taxpayer, are footing the bill for your truly phenomenal education, and on top of that paying you a sum that at the minimum, will keep you off food stamps ultimately begs the obvious overarching question, do you have a clue on what you signed up for beyond the dollar and cents column? Even after 8 years of military service, a spaghetti chart on pay, et al, confuses you? We're not talking quadratic equations here, it's a simpleton's pay chart, not too challenging, got it? It's only going to get more confusing, so who gives a rat's a** on what you will be paid? In short, if you need to ask, then question why people slam you for not even being able to cross the threshold of "Mr Moto?" In the end, get a clue, or buy a clue.

Did you touch a nerve, in a word, yes. I had a buddy who got killed pre solo on a ground mishap, you know what, fresh out of commissioning? She never once asked about your asinine crap--how much she would make as a butter bar---what an idiotic question.

If the reward of being an officer, with an opportunity to obtain a freely multi-million dollar education is not sufficient then why ask a question that is readily accessible? You know what? Ultimately your mindset is self-correcting for you are truly lazy. Therefore, you will be lazy enough in flight school to get kicked out, or you will pooch a flight. Remember the term, "triggers-pull." Too bad the Guard wasted a slot on you, but as my flight commander stated in T-38's there are no quotas, either you can fly IAW with the Air Force or not, for you that means, the Guard slot stink won't save you from your clueless self. Raise your personal bar or perish. Cheers!:D

crewdawg 07-23-2010 09:51 PM

Mustang - Grow some thicker skin, it will serve you well in your career. While I think calling ahead to UPT instructors, to put a bullseye on someone is lame, Grumble has a point about being an E-thug! Also, remember that since you will be a student...IP's can dish it out but can't take it back, at least, not from you. As a buddy of mine can attest, they WILL get their panties in a wad if you try...which is never good for you, the student.

Be sure that your squadron gets you orders to Corpus for phase III, that way you only have to suffer through the bs up tightness of AF pilot training for 6 months. Better yet, see if they will send you to Whiting for Phase I and II. The beach and only showing up for academics, sims and flying (ie...not showing up 12 hours a day, everyday) would be well worth the extra time it takes to get through your training.

Goodluck!

Hobbit64 07-24-2010 06:28 AM

Saint asked the '8 year enlisted question', not the OP.

Seems a lot like Flight info here...

Mustangcbra 07-30-2010 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 844167)
Easy there buddy... there are more than enough people on here with friends at all your potential UPT bases that can crush your dreams before you ever get started. Anonymous, you are not.

If you seriously have 8 years of prior service, and can't figure out how to read the DFAS pay table (or figure something out on your own for that matter) you're probably going to have serious problems with UPT.

Number one bro, I do not have any prior service. That was someone else on the board that has 8 years of prior service that posted on this thread. Number two if you really think that your going to "flush me out of UPT because of a comment on a message board that I made about your rudeness, you are sadly mistaken." Bullseye on my back or not I have come way to far in my career and flight training to allow someone on a message board who has nothing better to do than criticize civilians for trying to inquire about pay scales, ruin my future.

I dont know who exactly you think you are, but your not him. With that being said to the people who actually put in useful information I thank you. To all others you can pretty much bite me. I have done my research on line about housing and pay. If your a member of the military you know that there are alot of different variables regarding pay. This is why I posted my simple question.

Being the son of a 25 year Army Ranger and Vietnam veteran I can ensure you I have thick skin. I learned that from my father. I also learned another thing from him, never give up and never back down.

One last thing, Respect is earned not given, with that in mind if you expect me to respect your comments then you need to be more appropriate with them.

Mustangcbra 07-30-2010 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by TwoDogs (Post 845393)
What a waste of electrons. Don't worry, folks this is self-correcting. Apparently we have Orville's descendant amongst us. Clue, if you haven't done the math on the fact you received one of the most vaunted slots in the orbit of American aviation combined with the realism of readily accessible pay charts means if I see you at solo or much less getting winged it will be a day too long for us military aviators.

Who cares what you make? The fact we, the American taxpayer, are footing the bill for your truly phenomenal education, and on top of that paying you a sum that at the minimum, will keep you off food stamps ultimately begs the obvious overarching question, do you have a clue on what you signed up for beyond the dollar and cents column? Even after 8 years of military service, a spaghetti chart on pay, et al, confuses you? We're not talking quadratic equations here, it's a simpleton's pay chart, not too challenging, got it? It's only going to get more confusing, so who gives a rat's a** on what you will be paid? In short, if you need to ask, then question why people slam you for not even being able to cross the threshold of "Mr Moto?" In the end, get a clue, or buy a clue.

Did you touch a nerve, in a word, yes. I had a buddy who got killed pre solo on a ground mishap, you know what, fresh out of commissioning? She never once asked about your asinine crap--how much she would make as a butter bar---what an idiotic question.

If the reward of being an officer, with an opportunity to obtain a freely multi-million dollar education is not sufficient then why ask a question that is readily accessible? You know what? Ultimately your mindset is self-correcting for you are truly lazy. Therefore, you will be lazy enough in flight school to get kicked out, or you will pooch a flight. Remember the term, "triggers-pull." Too bad the Guard wasted a slot on you, but as my flight commander stated in T-38's there are no quotas, either you can fly IAW with the Air Force or not, for you that means, the Guard slot stink won't save you from your clueless self. Raise your personal bar or perish. Cheers!:D

First of all I am sorry about your friend.

I appreciate the flight spot more than you will ever know friend. Pay is important to me because I am married and have numerous student loans to pay off. Private student loans can not be deferred for long. I work 70 hours a week now to pay the $800 in loan payments every month along with all my other bills.

Although I may have come across as (apparently) lazy, when you work two jobs and begin your day at 3am and do not stop until 9pm, posting a simple question to tap the resources of military personell that already have experience can be very helpful and save time.

See the problem with these threads is that you guys do not know me or who i am. If you did you would know that I have faced to much adversity to just let a UPT slot slip through my hands by being "lazy". With that said hopefully you guys will have a little more respect for why I take great offense to being called a misfit or lazy.


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