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Adlerdriver 08-01-2010 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Sluggo_63 (Post 849191)
So, you want him to go through all this to basically do the same thing that he did on here... ask a question?

Go through all what??? Make a phone call? :rolleyes: Uhhh, yeah, I guess that's what I was suggesting. If he wanted to be reasonably sure he was getting an accurate answer.

Or, he could post a question on a forum and hope that the nameless 2Lt, who gave a take home pay figure with no explanation whatsoever about how he arrived at it, knew what he was talking about. Never mind the variables on exemptions, marital status, training location, etc. Nahhhh, I'm sure the take home figure will be accurate down to the penny - what was I thinking??


Originally Posted by Sluggo_63 (Post 849191)
Work smarter... not harder is my motto...

Good motto. Part of being smart is not wasting time only to end up with a questionable result. Using this message board in lieu of the other many resources he has available isn't "working smart", IMO. In this case, using the military pay professionals at his Guard unit or via telephone at the base he will be attending UPT is probably the "smartest" way to get a real answer.

Tiger2Flying 08-01-2010 07:37 PM

I take it most single guys live in the dorms during UPT. However, once completed with everything and stationed with your Unit do most guys live on or off base? Some guys I have spoken with said that they got a three or four room apartment/house and split the rent. This sounds like a great way to save money. Any incite?

Adlerdriver 08-01-2010 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by Tiger2Flying (Post 849285)
Any incite?

Just for the record, you "incite" riots and stuff like that. ;)

If you'd like some insight......... You don't have to live in the "Qs" (dorms) but if you're easily distracted and want to focus on the job at hand (i.e. getting wings), it's not a bad idea.

Yes, you can live off base if you'd like after UPT as well. The USAF can't make you live on base. You can share your apartment with anyone you'd like. Generally speaking, 3 or 4 Lts in the USAF have more buying power than just one. Plus, you can have some pretty good parties.

LivingInMEM 08-02-2010 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 849233)
Go through all what??? Make a phone call? :rolleyes: Uhhh, yeah, I guess that's what I was suggesting. If he wanted to be reasonably sure he was getting an accurate answer.

Or, he could post a question on a forum and hope that the nameless 2Lt, who gave a take home pay figure with no explanation whatsoever about how he arrived at it, knew what he was talking about. Never mind the variables on exemptions, marital status, training location, etc. Nahhhh, I'm sure the take home figure will be accurate down to the penny - what was I thinking??



Good motto. Part of being smart is not wasting time only to end up with a questionable result. Using this message board in lieu of the other many resources he has available isn't "working smart", IMO. In this case, using the military pay professionals at his Guard unit or via telephone at the base he will be attending UPT is probably the "smartest" way to get a real answer.

Laziness is what it is.

Tiger2Flying 08-02-2010 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 849316)
Just for the record, you "incite" riots and stuff like that. ;)

If you'd like some insight......... You don't have to live in the "Qs" (dorms) but if you're easily distracted and want to focus on the job at hand (i.e. getting wings), it's not a bad idea.

Yes, you can live off base if you'd like after UPT as well. The USAF can't make you live on base. You can share your apartment with anyone you'd like. Generally speaking, 3 or 4 Lts in the USAF have more buying power than just one. Plus, you can have some pretty good parties.

HAHA!!! Incite! Totally did not catch that one!:D

ExAF 08-02-2010 08:01 AM

Yes they can...sort of.
 

Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 849316)
Yes, you can live off base if you'd like after UPT as well. The USAF can't make you live on base.

The USAF can make you live on base if they need to meet their min occupancy numbers for on base housing. True you can decline to live on base under these circumstances, but you will forfeit your housing allowance. Not many Lt's are able/willing to forfeit that to live off base.

scrapdog 08-02-2010 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 849316)
Just for the record, you "incite" riots and stuff like that. ;)

If you'd like some insight......... You don't have to live in the "Qs" (dorms) but if you're easily distracted and want to focus on the job at hand (i.e. getting wings), it's not a bad idea.

Yes, you can live off base if you'd like after UPT as well. The USAF can't make you live on base. You can share your apartment with anyone you'd like. Generally speaking, 3 or 4 Lts in the USAF have more buying power than just one. Plus, you can have some pretty good parties.

Adler, you flying the F-22 out of Elmendorf with the reserves?

HoursHore 08-02-2010 08:49 AM

Single students are made to live on base all the time if the Q is not full. No great sacrifice in garden spots like Enid, CBM or Del rio (Hell in Del Rio I'd want to live behind a tall fence.)

Grumble 08-02-2010 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by arjmjj (Post 848889)
Mustang,

Couple things, all that went on here was some good old hazing. So let's review: Not one of your IPs will be required to earn your respect, give it regardless, your "career" and "flight training" have not begun so you have not even started your journey let alone come "too far", and friend, in the Air Force, you are not a soldier-plus as a 2Lt no one is below you in rank not even enlisted, you are such a boot at that stage that your voice will be regarded as little more than a cricket. But have fun Forrest(yep 2 Rs, can't even get that right). One last thing, sit down and learn the difference between your and you're.

Read it, learn it, live it. Mustang you haven't stepped one foot in the door, you've done nothing, you've earned nothing. Right now, you're fogging a mirror. If your father should have taught you anything it's that you're not in the club, not by a long shot. No, crushing the dreams of internet tough guys isn't my bag... I'm not a UPT IP. Those that would are lurking though. Bet on it.

Sluggo_63 08-02-2010 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 849233)
Go through all what??? Make a phone call? :rolleyes: Uhhh, yeah, I guess that's what I was suggesting. If he wanted to be reasonably sure he was getting an accurate answer.

Or, he could post a question on a forum and hope that the nameless 2Lt, who gave a take home pay figure with no explanation whatsoever about how he arrived at it, knew what he was talking about. Never mind the variables on exemptions, marital status, training location, etc. Nahhhh, I'm sure the take home figure will be accurate down to the penny - what was I thinking??



Good motto. Part of being smart is not wasting time only to end up with a questionable result. Using this message board in lieu of the other many resources he has available isn't "working smart", IMO. In this case, using the military pay professionals at his Guard unit or via telephone at the base he will be attending UPT is probably the "smartest" way to get a real answer.

You're right... I would never stoop to asking a question on an internet forum for fear of getting a bad answer.

I would especially not ask questions like this:

Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 849437)
Never tried to JS on Spirit. Does anyone know if they charge you for your bags or anything non-standard like that?

From what I can see on the ALPA website, it's just walk up to the gate and fill out a form. Any requirement to list via phone? Any and all gouge would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
AD

Or one this this...

Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 793235)
Hey guys,
I'm looking for guidance, FAR references, CRAR, etc. on the following scenario:

IGONO 1W arrival into ZGGG. Basically it's a straight shot from an IAF to a point on downwind arriving from the northeast. Left turn to base and then pick up the ILS 02L from there.

Or about something as important as vacation...

Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 741460)
Can someone help w/ this scenario:

Feb vacation - 11 days (the last 11 days of the month w/ a slide)

3 days of carryover from Jan into Feb.

If I bid a line that has 2 trips. A 40 hour trip in conflict w/ my carryover and a 25 hour trip in conflict w/ my vacation - How does this play out regarding pay/make-up, etc.

...You're right... anyone who turns to the internet forums for answers is CRAZY...

(all in good fun, Adler)


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