Kikuchiyo,

Please check your PM when able. Thanks.

Thunder1

Thanks Kik

I received the "Denied Extension" letter today. It clearly states 11F billets are still undermanned and those are the only billets they are approving.

Cheers,

WarE

I just spoke to a friend who is with me in the LPRP program and has heard that sanctuary declarers will actually be staying within the LPRP program until their 20 yr retirement point. The LPRP office has said that this will end up being easier than putting folks back on regular active duty. One reason given was the pain of having to meet AD promotion boards...which is not required under the LPRP program.

War Eagle, what was the exact routing that your package went through and who was the final authority in your denial? HQUSAF? Which directorate? Names? Are you a mobility guy?
Thanks

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I'm a recce guy, and it was disapproved at AFPC.

Sir, this e-mail and the attached letter (atch 1) serve as official
notification that your Recall Extension request, although strongly
considered was disapproved. The most pressing need for recall extensions at
this time is to provide 11F (Fighter Pilot) capability to augment the AD force.

Voluntary Officer Recall to Active Duty Section Officer Accessions Branch
DSN 665-2288 Comm (210) 565-2288

Kikuchiyo,

Have you or anyone else heard of the possibility of them running another limited recall program after this one expires for targeted AFSCs/specialties that the AF is critically manned in?

Thanks in advance,

Bunker

No, in fact, they've ruled out the possibility for FY 12 for sure. FY 13 not likely, and beyond that, who can say.

The personelists that understand the issues that affect rated have to deal with the larger AF issues of being over end strength. As I've said before, it's very difficult for them to convince the corporate structure of the need to recall a bunch of non-promotable, non-PCS-able, retirement-eligible individuals when they're simultaneously kicking out upwardly mobile young guys.

In addition, the ARC felt like they got shafted by the last recall. It apparently wasn't fully coordinated with them beforehand. They lost a bunch of guys back to AD, many of whom will hit 20 yrs of AD time during their recall tour. They'll never go back to the ARC, which wasn't accounted for in the ARC's manning projections. It's likely that the ARC will push back on another round of recalls unless the AD side addresses their concerns better.

Of course, this is all likely to change by 2014 if the airlines really start hiring and the 10-yr pilot training ADSC guys all bail.

Is AFPC doing anything to address this issue that's looming just beyond the horizon? Or are they taking the standard wait-and-see approach, before instituting knee-jerk policies like stop-loss and 20 year UPT ADSCs?

FWIW, I think a significant number will bail regardless of the status of airline hiring. People are pretty fed up.