Any KC10 drivers....
03-21-2011 | 12:53 PM
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Any KC10 drivers....
Was this anyone here??????
Sometimes camera angles play tricks on you but this looks like a very steep climb. YEEEHAAAA
YouTube - KC-10A Takeoff
Sometimes camera angles play tricks on you but this looks like a very steep climb. YEEEHAAAA
YouTube - KC-10A Takeoff
03-21-2011 | 04:15 PM
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@ Mayfly: Ah hell no! The big rumor then was that McD told the Air Force that if they didn't stop doing the shuttle takeoff, they were going to void any or all warranties. And I also heard once that another crew who tried this experienced an engine failure during the steep climb and almost lost control of the airplane.
@ Zoot: I wasn't there but everyone who taught me how to fly the KC-10 would talk about this. There are no camera tricks here. The airshow demo crews used to keep the airplane on the runway up to the tire limit speed (which I believe was 204 knots) and then rotated and used all the smash and 152,000 lbs of thrust to go nearly vertical. A lightly loaded KC-10 has a V2+10 in the 120ish realm.
@ Zoot: I wasn't there but everyone who taught me how to fly the KC-10 would talk about this. There are no camera tricks here. The airshow demo crews used to keep the airplane on the runway up to the tire limit speed (which I believe was 204 knots) and then rotated and used all the smash and 152,000 lbs of thrust to go nearly vertical. A lightly loaded KC-10 has a V2+10 in the 120ish realm.
03-21-2011 | 04:20 PM
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03-21-2011 | 05:54 PM
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03-21-2011 | 09:59 PM
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In the early nineties, the airshow climbouts were fairly common. At KBAD, they were finally stopped with them telling us that they discovered cracks in the horizontal stab that were tied to the maneuver. I don't know if it was true or not, but '93 or '94 was the last time the KBAD guys were allowed to fly them.
The flyby's were actually a practiced maneuver, a landing attitude demo. 10' radar altimeter in the flare attitude - flown all the way down the runway until the 1,000' (or was it 2,000') remaining marker.
The flyby's were actually a practiced maneuver, a landing attitude demo. 10' radar altimeter in the flare attitude - flown all the way down the runway until the 1,000' (or was it 2,000') remaining marker.
03-22-2011 | 06:13 AM
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The cracks are real. When you pick up a C-check, Boeing shows the pilots engineering drawings and/or pictures of the cracks and how much they're propagating. Did this maneuver cause them? Who knows. But if other DC10s have them (which I don't know if they do) then I would say no.
We've over Gd two jets due to aggressive TCAS RA maneuvering and it caused physical damage to the horizontal stabs. Pieces of the horizontal stabs departed the jets. I believe this is why they now fly TCAS RAs with the autopilot on.
We've over Gd two jets due to aggressive TCAS RA maneuvering and it caused physical damage to the horizontal stabs. Pieces of the horizontal stabs departed the jets. I believe this is why they now fly TCAS RAs with the autopilot on.
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