I guess that since I've never filled out an airline application, I wasn't aware that they made you list the dates on which you were awarded the different certificates and types.

 

Many don't. Can't be sure about all of them.

The three airlines I've been hired by didn't and the others I applied to didn't. Just ATP, yes or no and aircraft flown. No dates.

The actual ATP doesn't even list dates of type ratings. Just a date the current one you have was issued. I got my original in 1997 but my current one has a 2008 date (I think that might have been when we had to do the english proficient thing, but I can't remember for sure).

Bottom line is no one is going to care. Matching ATP dates with type rating dates by digging through logbooks, other airline training records, etc. is minutia. They can see from your employment history what your story is. It ain't rocket science.

Wayyy too much is being read into getting a 737 type rating, IMO. I know plenty of guys who got hired at Fedex, AA, UAL, Delta, UPS, etc. with 737 types. You get out of the military, you fill the ATP square, get a 737 type if you have the cash and shotgun the resumes to whoever is hiring. Airlines all know this and they'll know you're lying if you tell them you haven't applied to other carriers. They'll probably ding you for poor judgment if you didn't get apps in with everyone who is hiring. It shows a commitment to flying and the career.

The folks you're sitting across the interview table from are always your first choice - no doubt - those other apps are just in case it doesn't work out with them so you can get some more experience and re-apply at the earliest opportunity.

 

Agree 100%.

I did my 737 type with FTI (Flight Training Int'l). The company is based in Denver but they have facilities all over the country. I did mine in Atlanta.

C9

 

You're right this is a very minor point, I only brought it up so that someone wouldn't be blind-sided at an interview if someone asked if SWA was their first choice. For a military guy it is perfectly reasonable to do the ATP in a 73. My original suggestion was just to save the coin unless you want to work for SWA.

Although a civilian-track pilot would give off major LUV vibes if he has a 73 type but no work history to explain it. I know, and others know, guys who have had their nads busted over that issue. Of course they deserved it...why do you think they had the type in the first place?

 

If the extra money isn't an issue get the 73 type because if you don't have civilian part 25 aircraft experience its invaluable.

What is hilarious, but upon reflection is actually sad, is that "other airlines than SWA" may feel defensive or wary of you if you show-up for a interview with a 737 type. What that says about them is them thinking "we know SWA is better a place to be a professional passenger airline pilot". And going by their reasoning they are so, um, ashamed, they probably won't hire you. Just one of the hundreds of fabulous nuggets of commercial aviation rationality you're going to experience once you're out of the military.

 

Vifa, [....], I flew with you last week, there are plenty of folks right where you're at that have been in your shoes and can give plenty of advice that Rickair knows nothing about...

Wheels

 

Good point. I should probably change my name on this thing.

 

I thought they were "hogs"

 

No, some A-10 pilots are jerks, while the planes they fly are hogs.

 

Vifa, I know where you're coming from, I got out after 10 years, the last 7 overseas and thought I would get picked up by a major airline right out of the gate. 6 months later and after dozens of applications sent, I went to a national pilot job fair where I learned A LOT about the airlines I didn't know.

Number one, it's WHO you know, not WHAT you know, and like a few others have said, unless you know that with internal recs you're going to get a SWA interview, you may not want to get a 73 type. I even met guys at the job fair that told me Delta was going to toss my resume in the can because I wrote "Delta Airlines" instead of "Delta Airline." If you can fly a military plane, you'll be ok in the interview. My best advice to you is to take advantage of what the military can provide to you. Go to Advanced Instrument School, become an instructor, and take the MilComp Flight Instructor Test from the FAA which will give you your CFI. Good luck!