okawner

On/off lurker, first time poster. I'm going to transition in about two years and wonder if anyone could recommend a good book or two (or 10) to help me learn the ins and outs of the industry. I struggle to understand some of the discussions/jargon on this board, esp. WRT scheduling, management, and unions. I UTFSFed, but no luck (although I did see several recommendations for "Gates of Fire" - I'll have to check that out).

Also, I'm a horrible networker. Aside from the facebook and linked in (and this site), what's the best way to start reconnecting with all the dudes I've flown with over the years?

'Preciate any help.

rickair7777

If you want to learn how we got where we are, Hard Landing (Petzinger) will enlighten you. I can't think of any books about the current state of the industry, but I'm sure someone else can chime in.

As for networking...that can be tough cuz pilots move around. Try to find one person, he'll probably have stayed in tough with someone else you knew, etc, etc. Check out military alumni associations.

Adlerdriver

"Checklist for Success" by Cheryl Cage was around in the late '90s and I found it to be an excellent resource for interview prep. If it's available, I think it would still be a big help, especially for those coming out of the military.

HuggyU2

I used these guys many years ago, and my interview went pretty smooth.
Aviation Consulting Services - Personnel
I would use them again if I had to do it over again.

KC10 FATboy

The number one factor IMO in getting hired where you want is networking and getting internal recommendations. Without it, you are just another resume in the stack unless you have thousands of PIC time.

Facebook is probably the best tool out there because it connects you with so many people from the past. Simply put, call or email them directly. Ask them where they are working and how they like their jobs and the companies they work for. Tell them your intentions and goals and ask them for any suggestions or help. Ask for the recommendation if they work where you want to. When you ask for a recommendation, DON'T leave it up to them to remember way back when and write from scratch. Have a sample letter already written to which they can make their own. Have or tell a couple of stories of things that happened when you flew or worked together to help joggle the memory. You'll end up getting better recs this way.

okawner

Good deal - thanks for the replies.

mayutt

Related to the topic of this thread, I'll be eligible to retire from the military in about 2 years. There seems to be adequate information on what to do once one decides to retire from military service, but very little on what factors should be considered when one is considering when/whether to retire.

Anyone know of any good info sources (seminars, books, etc, or even personal opinion) on how to make the best decision on when/whether to retire from the military, from a pilot's perspective? I'm a pointy-nose type, should be able to keep flying until >19 yrs worst case.

Thanks!

zach141

I would say every month you're getting O-5 pay AND flying is a pretty good month. Stay in until the personnel folks offer you a PCS that you don't want.

mayutt

They are good months, however working 6 day weeks with long hours is tough on the family in addition to the military uncertainty (travel, deployments, etc). An airline position seems pretty attractive to me, even if I'm gone 2 or even 3 weeks per month if I'm home the rest of the time. Thoughts?

okawner

It's a tough call, but for me I tend to think that for every day I stay past 20 I'm essentially working for half pay. I know it doesn't work out to exactly half because of benefits, bonus pay, etc. But it's close enough to make me want to find another job. The AF has been good to me and my family over the years, but I'm ready to move on.