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Why are we doing this to ourselves ?
OK. I'm an old warrior but still have a burning love for the military. I'm as worried now as I was during the Cuban Crisis when I orbited in a B-52 Loaded with four nucs near the USSR. We are already stretched thin with too many deployments and now this.
"Prioritizing Flying Hours Last week, eight Air Force fighter and bomber units ceased flying and entered a dormant status. Four additional units are expected to stand down when they return from deployment in the next few weeks. And another bomber unit that is slated to come home this summer will stand down once it returns, said Air Force Secretary Michael Donley." We doing to ourselves what we did to the Soviet Union years ago when they could no longer fund their military. There are too many inept politicians (both Democrat and Republicans) in Washington. The military proposes saving money by shutting down excess bases and the politicians say not in my district. Meanwhile thousands of AF crewmembers (and Army / Navy personnel) sit loosing their war fighting edge and proficiency. It will be more expensive in the end including the loss of life. |
Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
(Post 1391280)
OK. I'm an old warrior but still have a burning love for the military. I'm as worried now as I was during the Cuban Crisis when I orbited in a B-52 Loaded with four nucs near the USSR. We are already stretched thin with too many deployments and now this.
"Prioritizing Flying Hours Last week, eight Air Force fighter and bomber units ceased flying and entered a dormant status. Four additional units are expected to stand down when they return from deployment in the next few weeks. And another bomber unit that is slated to come home this summer will stand down once it returns, said Air Force Secretary Michael Donley." We doing to ourselves what we did to the Soviet Union years ago when they could no longer fund their military. There are too many inept politicians (both Democrat and Republicans) in Washington. The military proposes saving money by shutting down excess bases and the politicians say not in my district. Meanwhile thousands of AF crewmembers (and Army / Navy personnel) sit loosing their war fighting edge and proficiency. It will be more expensive in the end including the loss of life. |
Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
(Post 1391280)
OK. I'm an old warrior but still have a burning love for the military. I'm as worried now as I was during the Cuban Crisis when I orbited in a B-52 Loaded with four nucs near the USSR. We are already stretched thin with too many deployments and now this.
"Prioritizing Flying Hours Last week, eight Air Force fighter and bomber units ceased flying and entered a dormant status. Four additional units are expected to stand down when they return from deployment in the next few weeks. And another bomber unit that is slated to come home this summer will stand down once it returns, said Air Force Secretary Michael Donley." We doing to ourselves what we did to the Soviet Union years ago when they could no longer fund their military. There are too many inept politicians (both Democrat and Republicans) in Washington. The military proposes saving money by shutting down excess bases and the politicians say not in my district. Meanwhile thousands of AF crewmembers (and Army / Navy personnel) sit loosing their war fighting edge and proficiency. It will be more expensive in the end including the loss of life. Looks like you are in an WB-57. Do you know Duster? ~Kuma |
Why are we doing this to ourselves.......ask our Commander in Chief.
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Originally Posted by Kuma
(Post 1391419)
F Troop-
Looks like you are in an WB-57. Do you know Duster? ~Kuma Do know some of the U-2R pilots like "Hector" and "Huggy" . |
Originally Posted by Flamer
(Post 1391306)
It is a risky bluff by the csaf. If it works and sequestration is undone he will be seen as a genius. If the stand down last as long or longer then expected the first order effects will be immediately catastrophic and the third order effects will take decades to undo. The ARC may come out of this looking like a more favorable construct, of course it will be at the expense of active duty.
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That posturing has killed the 13B WIC classe...great idea! :rolleyes: Not only that, you potentially killed a lot of dudes chances to compete for WIC or become IPs! The AF is already having a hard time keeping IPs and it's only going to get worse if the airlines start hiring. It's only 6 months (hopefully), but this will have far reaching effects...for years!
Here is the full list. Air Force Times Mobile - Reduced flying hours forces grounding of 17 USAF combat air squadrons F-22 94th Fighter Squadron -- Grounded April 9 27th Fighter Squadron -- Basic mission capable through September 3rd Fighter Wing -- Two squadrons combat mission ready through September 15th Wing -- One squadron combat mission ready through September 49th Wing -- One squadron combat mission ready through September F-15 C/D 67th Fighter Squadron -- Basic mission capable through September 44th Fighter Squadron -- Basic mission capable through July, then Combat mission ready through September 48th Fighter Wing -- One squadron combat mission ready through September F-15E 366th Fighter Squadron -- Grounded April 9 335th Fighter Squadron -- Combat mission ready through September 48th Fighter Wing -- Two squadrons stand down April 9 391st Fighter Squadron -- Stands down April 9 F-16 C/D 8th Fighter Wing -- Two squadrons combat mission ready through September 77th Fighter Squadron -- Stands down April 9 55th Fighter Squadron -- Combat mission ready through September 79th Fighter Squadron -- Basic mission capable through July, then combat mission ready through September 555th Fighter Squadron -- Stands down April 9 510th Fighter Squadron -- Combat mission ready through September 13th Fighter Squadron -- Combat mission ready through September 14th Fighter Squadron -- Basic mission capable through September 51st Wing -- One squadron combat mission ready through September 57th Wing -- One squadron (Thunderbirds) stands down April 9 158th Fighter Wing -- One squadron stands down April 9 169th Fighter Wing -- One squadron stands down April 9 187th Fighter Wing -- One squadron stands down April 9 354th Fighter Wing -- One squadron stands down April 9 4th Fighter Squadron -- Basic mission capable until redeployment 421st Fighter Squadron -- Basic mission capable through September A-10C 75th Fighter Squadron -- Basic mission capable through July, then combat mission ready through September 51st Wing -- One squadron combat mission ready through September 52nd Fighter Wing -- Closing 442nd Fighter Wing -- One squadron stands down April 9 917th Wing -- One squadron stands down April 9 HH-60G 18th Wing -- One squadron combat mission ready through September 48th Fighter Wing -- One squadron combat mission ready through September B-1B 7th Bomb Wing -- One squadron combat mission ready through September 28th Bomb Wing -- Two squadrons stand down April 9 B-2 509th Bomb Wing -- Two squadrons combat mission ready through September B-52 2nd Bomb Wing -- One squadron stand down April 9 5th Bomb Wing -- Two combat squadrons combat mission ready through September E-3B/C/G 3rd Bomb Wing -- Basic mission capable through September 18th Wing -- One squadron basic mission capable through September 552nd Air Control Wing -- One squadron basic mission capable through September SE-4B 55th Wing -- One squadron combat mission ready through September EC-130H 55 Electronic Combat Group -- One squadron combat mission ready through September OC-135B 55th Wing -- One squadron combat mission ready through September RC-135S 55th Wing -- One squadron combat mission ready through September RC-135U 55th Wing -- One squadron combat mission ready through September RC-135V/W 55th Wing -- One squadron basic mission capable through September TC-135W 55th Wing (training) -- One squadron basic mission capable through September WC-135C/W 55th Wing. -- One squadron combat mission ready through September |
Getting these squadrons back on their feet is going to be monumental. we are not doing this to ourselves, our civilian leadership is, which is how our constitution and government work. I'm OK with this fact, though I do not agree with it. I am far from a (D) or BO supporter but elections have consequences. The military actually works for their pay, some of it very low (ask a SEAL who was on the Bin Laden raid how much he makes), but we a prioritizing other things (unemployment/welfare/green companies that go bankrupt) over military readiness. VOTE.
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Take solace men, SOS is still going as scheduled
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So are CC courses. At least the generals are meeting via VTC.
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