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Has anyone used Air American Flight Center in Daytona Beach or Sky Warrior in Pensacola?
Air America Flight Center Private & Commercial Flight Training | Sky Warrior, Inc. - Pensacola, FL |
Stay away from AllATP in KGTU. Newer addition to the AllATP puppymill locations apparently. Buddy of mine just went through a pretty bad experience there, discontinuance of checkride (a blessing I encouraged him to cut and run with), out 5K. Unorganized young and inexperienced time-builder CFIs (standard for part 61 fly by night ops), lack of standarization, and horrible DPE who apparently has a bad reputation in the San Antonio, New Braunfels, San Marcos area for being military non-friendly, even as an ex-mil guy himself (I'll leave names out).
Definitively worth to seek other options for the Texas folks. I was almost gonna pull the trigger on this place and now it's back to the drawing board before my written expires in June. |
Originally Posted by ugleeual
(Post 2080026)
All ATPs... Military friendly... Especially locations near military bases.
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Question: My friend is wanting to do the ATP(has the written done). But he hasn't done the military competency to obtain the commercial. Under 61.153(d)(2) it looks like he just needs to meet the requirements to obtain the commercial but doesn't have to actually have one. Can anyone confirm? Will he need to do the Mil Comp written, and get the commercial or will he be able to just do the ATP.
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Why doesn't he just do the Mil comp test and be done with it? It's literally a free test that you take to the FSDO and they hand you a commercial ticket. Nothing could be easier.
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Originally Posted by Hobbit64
(Post 2093844)
I just finished my practical in southeast VA.
I used Rob G. (USN E-2 guy) at Curtis Eads for the instruction piece. He's been doing this a while and truly enjoys general aviation and the training aspect. He is very thorough and knows how military folks approach training so he can steer you well. I would absolutely use him again. My DPE was John Phelps (Home Page). The eval was great. Not a 'gimme', but I didn't have to build the shuttle. Know your stuff, and it's a good time. Well thought out and good pace of events. Mr. Phelps was good at 'situational questions' for depth of knowledge and decision making evaluations. Glad it's over, and I'd use both again in a heart beat knowing what I know now. The DPE's in the area are booking up so, don't wait too long. +1 for both Rob and John Phelps. Rob did my MEI prep and is a great instructor. I also taught at Curtis Eads and used John for my ME/ATP students; excellent and fair DPE. The DPE's in all areas will likely book up as folks "grandfathered" under the old rules try to finish up before their written expires after 24 months. |
Originally Posted by gulfstreampiper
(Post 2116456)
Question: My friend is wanting to do the ATP(has the written done). But he hasn't done the military competency to obtain the commercial. Under 61.153(d)(2) it looks like he just needs to meet the requirements to obtain the commercial but doesn't have to actually have one. Can anyone confirm? Will he need to do the Mil Comp written, and get the commercial or will he be able to just do the ATP.
I would recommend having the mil comp thing knocked out, but it is absolutely not required prior to getting your ATP. |
Originally Posted by Snaplock
(Post 2116693)
I did my ATP a couple months ago without having my commercial done. I was the first one my examiner had seen like this but the examiner had no problems with it and was fully aware of how to handle the paperwork.
I would recommend having the mil comp thing knocked out, but it is absolutely not required prior to getting your ATP. |
Originally Posted by Toonces
(Post 2116527)
Why doesn't he just do the Mil comp test and be done with it? It's literally a free test that you take to the FSDO and they hand you a commercial ticket. Nothing could be easier.
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Originally Posted by gulfstreampiper
(Post 2117346)
Is the only difference that he wouldn't have "Commercial Privileges: Airplane Single Engine Land"?
Life and work got in the way and I ended up not having time to get my commercial and CFI mil equivalency tests done before hand like I had planned. I decided that the ATP was a big deal and not something you even want to come close to failing so I focused on that. Don't sweat the other stuff. I would recommend focusing on killing it during your ATP training and check ride and then knock out the two mil comp tests as able before you hit submit on airline apps. |
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