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4fans 09-16-2013 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by PittsDriver (Post 1454495)
If you don't mind going to Boston, I can put you in touch with the best deal out there to get your ATP. PM me if interested.

Hey Pitts, you pm'ed me the Boston info way back last winter. I tried to call the Boston guy no kidding 30 times and sent emails with no answer or response. Any ideas on how to get started? I'll send you a pm also.

Flyinhigh 09-16-2013 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by Jughead135 (Post 1482022)
Depends on what you fly--has to be a typed aircraft (since if there's no FAA type, there's no FAA examiner in said type...). Otherwise, it's doable.

Doesn't even have to be a Guard guy. There is a mechanism to put any FAA-credentialed examiner on a military aircraft as MEP. YMMV on whatever BS you have to go through to get it approved, though I suspect that may be easier in the Guard world than AD. A sticking point may be what happens to your mission profile with an MEP on board (practice EPs, etc.)? Bottom line, I saw it done in the KC-135 (where the biggest challenge was finding a 707 examiner).

My last job on AD was at the RC-135 schoolhouse (which is a blended AD/Guard unit). I know some of the Guardsmen were looking into becoming DEs for exactly this purpose; not sure if they've made any progress. Good luck!

We did this in the KC-135 guard unit I was associated with back in the 70's (probably outdated information by now.) The problem was with the V-1 cut. Fortunately we had a former CFIC Instructor in the unit who was allowed to do the V-1 cut on the runway. Briefed the maneuver prior to the flight and then just went out and did it. Felt a little help on the rudder pedal from the Instructor because I sure had never done this recently. The examiner was a FAA 707/720 guy. He came through the area quite a bit and it was no problem to get him scheduled. I think about six of us did this one afternoon on a pattern ride.

e6bpilot 09-16-2013 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by Flyinhigh (Post 1484784)
We did this in the KC-135 guard unit I was associated with back in the 70's (probably outdated information by now.) The problem was with the V-1 cut. Fortunately we had a former CFIC Instructor in the unit who was allowed to do the V-1 cut on the runway. Briefed the maneuver prior to the flight and then just went out and did it. Felt a little help on the rudder pedal from the Instructor because I sure had never done this recently. The examiner was a FAA 707/720 guy. He came through the area quite a bit and it was no problem to get him scheduled. I think about six of us did this one afternoon on a pattern ride.

I did pretty much the same thing with a former Navy examiner. Since the V-1 cut is prohibited in the 707 now, he didn't have to do it. Unfortunately can't do 6 in a day now. Apparently that is frowned upon due to the amount of time the oral and practical exams should take. He did two in a day. He has done navy and Air Force in squadron aircraft. A great deal!

MikeF16 09-16-2013 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1477056)
Is GPS/GFMS/RNAV knowledge/usage a requirement for an ATP these days? When I did mine, it was all NDB, VOR/DME, ILS etc, classic instrument work.

In regard to your practical, if it isn't on the specific airplane you fly then you can't be tested on it. One nice thing about AZFTC was the NDB and autopilot were both placarded INOP which meant no autopilot approaches and no NDB work :).

av8seahawk 09-16-2013 04:16 PM

Same initial question but for the Seattle area or PNW. Any good gouge for ATP schools there that are or are not mil friendly?

Check6Viper 09-17-2013 09:53 PM

1000 hr current F-16 guy here. 2 day course or 4 day course at AllATPs?

flamingo74 09-30-2013 11:14 AM

Just completed the ATP with the Ft Lauderdale guys. Great group...willing to work my schedule and the examiner was very professional.

gdpballin 09-30-2013 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by flamingo74 (Post 1493744)
Just completed the ATP with the Ft Lauderdale guys. Great group...willing to work my schedule and the examiner was very professional.

Just curious, who was your examiner in ft lauderdale?

SEAviator 10-02-2013 06:36 AM

Anyone know anything about the Arizona Flight Training Center in Glendale, AZ for getting an ATP practical?

I heard All ATP at Arlington was good, as well.

T6 Pilot 10-02-2013 07:41 AM

Same topic...

Did anyone use the GI Bill for this, and if so, what's the process? I'd like a basic understanding of what to expect...


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