Regional vs other?
#21
USMCFLYER, I'm CB (changed user name). Crusoe was a few years before my time at 101 as I just finished there this summer - he is indeed a great American (got to fly with him in Fallon when he was at TG). I was probably in Lemoore when you were at 125 (did 13 yrs there off 'n on between '95 and '10). Small world. May have overlap with Tuna somewhere, too...

'Crusoe' and I were in -115 together for years.
I was XO during part of Chili's tenure as CO.
I was in -106 between 06-10. We certainly shared airspace
#22
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One other question for anyone with Regional experience as well as military… I keep hearing about terrible QOL with the Regionals, but what is that compared to? Most military guys will spend over half the year on the road to the desert with little to no-notice as to when they are going and when they are home are spending the whole time in the office dealing with queep like writing performance reports, awards packages and taking useless CBTs about sexual harassment and information management. Most would be quite happy to just fly the line and not deal with any of the other crap. What makes Regional QOL worse than what the military guys have been doing for the past 12+yrs aside from the pay?
Yep, and so will a Legacy, so will an LCC, and even one of the top freight carriers. It's business, and pilots are nothing but a line item expense that needs to be managed.
#23
One other question for anyone with Regional experience as well as military… I keep hearing about terrible QOL with the Regionals, but what is that compared to? Most military guys will spend over half the year on the road to the desert with little to no-notice as to when they are going and when they are home are spending the whole time in the office dealing with queep like writing performance reports, awards packages and taking useless CBTs about sexual harassment and information management. Most would be quite happy to just fly the line and not deal with any of the other crap. What makes Regional QOL worse than what the military guys have been doing for the past 12+yrs aside from the pay?
#24
USMCFLYER, I'm CB (changed user name). Crusoe was a few years before my time at 101 as I just finished there this summer - he is indeed a great American (got to fly with him in Fallon when he was at TG). I was probably in Lemoore when you were at 125 (did 13 yrs there off 'n on between '95 and '10). Small world. May have overlap with Tuna somewhere, too...
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Depending on where you live regional pay and retirement pay shouldn't be an issue. If you get on with a regional and you live in base QOL will be good even if your on reserve. Some bases you will be getting paid to sit at home. Qol sucks if your on reserve and commuting. Good luck and thank you for your service. How many hours are you getting deployed?
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I have many friends both at the regionals and in the military, and I've heard horror stories on both ends.
I will say this for the military though...they take care of their own. My gf is enlisted and if she gets moved to California she gets a nice housing allowance to help pay the bills. The regionals simply don't care about the cost of living at their bases nor do they care how you will put food on the table.
Oh and if they don't need you they will throw you out in the street in a moments notice. I've seen it happen many times.
I will say this for the military though...they take care of their own. My gf is enlisted and if she gets moved to California she gets a nice housing allowance to help pay the bills. The regionals simply don't care about the cost of living at their bases nor do they care how you will put food on the table.
Oh and if they don't need you they will throw you out in the street in a moments notice. I've seen it happen many times.
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Have no illusions about the military… we definitely have loyalty and take care of each other on our own, but to the "machine" we are just numbers as well. They play a lot of lip service to it, but the military does not care about you or your family or what is in your best interests. Had a Major ask a 3 Star in a Commander's Call about pilot retention with a possible looming airline hiring boom and the boss told him to go ahead and leave because he will be easily replaced. I'm not sure how he will "easily replace" a 14 yr Evaluator pilot with over 1000 combat hours, but it shows the mentality of our senior "managers". If I feel like I'm being treated like crap at an airline I can quit tomorrow, not an option in the military… not for your first 10 yrs as a pilot anyways.
I'm assuming you already have turbine PIC, so in your case you could go to one of the "good" regionals since you're more than likely not too concerned about upgrade time. I have several friends at Skywest and they have good QOL and get treated way better than my friends at places like GoJet (which is where one would go to upgrade faster to get TPIC).
Good luck to you though!
#28
Depending on where you live regional pay and retirement pay shouldn't be an issue. If you get on with a regional and you live in base QOL will be good even if your on reserve. Some bases you will be getting paid to sit at home. Qol sucks if your on reserve and commuting. Good luck and thank you for your service. How many hours are you getting deployed?
#29
Here is what I did after I retired from the Navy last 1 April, 2013..flying T-45's out of Kingsville. I initially went Regional, AWAC and almost finished training but the pay was just awful. So I fly for L3 now, not the best of locations and though I won't try to justify the time off (60 on and 60 off), the pay is decent. Some guys love this job for the time off and I'm not saying they are wrong as I will see as my first 60 off is coming up in a week. I still think I want a major but will just have to wait and see if they call and then if I get hired. I finished 20 years with 3025 hours total, 2200 prop and the rest jet, 1800 PIC, etc, etc. You will fly around 100-125 hours a month here. I got 105 first month and now getting PIC time as well.
#30
Do the Majors/Legacys not like pilots that come from the Regionals? It seems there is some sort of negativity the Major/Legacy have out for the Regionals. Or due they just like post military better?
Why do some Regionals have a higher minimums but pay so much less than some of the Major/Legacy? Delta/United for example (1500 TT / 1000 Turbine) vs Compass Air (1500 TT / 100 ME, preferred 2500 TT/ 500 ME). Delta/United says nothing about ME time, why?
Is Spirit "better" than UAL/Delta/AA? Their mins are off the chart for someone like me. (4000 TT / 1000 ME) There FO pay is "bad" compared to the Big 3 I just mentioned.
Bottom line I would love to bypass the small paycheck at the Regionals and some Majors like SkyWest, but it seems like I might have to go there for ME FW time and 121 experience, but then I have to deal with being a "Regional" guy.
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