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Old 03-13-2014, 01:24 PM
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Hello All,

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Guard UH-60 Pilot with a little over 500 hrs TT, ALL RW time, I recently received my FAA Commercial RW Inst. cert. I will be attending a community college (Part 141) at the end of this month to obtain all my Fixed Wing ratings.

My Goal:
Fly the wide bodies to far away lands.

My Questions:
Will I be able to start my FW training at my Commercial Cert?
- I am familiar with Part 61.123, I am looking for weather or not it would be a good idea/advice/stories of those who have done something similar. Or since the school is 141 does that even apply?

Would it be beneficial for me to get the Private for the hours?

I am looking at applying to the usual "low time" jobs (Ameriflight, other cargo jobs, parachute jump pilot etc.), after I get the Comm., MEL, and Inst. ratings. I will have roughly 100 hrs total time in a Fixed Wing, and hopefully about half of that in a Multi Engine/complex airframe. Would I even me marketable to those companies?

With regards to Night, Cross Country, and Instrument time, should I also add my Helo hours?

Sarcasm to a minimum, humor to a maximum, and any and all information, would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Very Respectfully,

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Old 03-13-2014, 01:34 PM
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I have a similar background to you and am pursuing the same goal. I don't have time to respond too far in depth right now, but shoot me a PM and I'll respond ASAP.
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Old 03-13-2014, 01:47 PM
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Looks like I need to make a few more posts in order to be able to PM... Ill work on that, and ill PM you when I can
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Old 03-13-2014, 01:59 PM
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APTAP.org - Professionals Helping Professionals
Plenty of people there that have traveled the road you are starting.
Lots to search and read.

My first advice is to never give up your guard job. Never.
Ask around your AASF to see anyone else there can help.
Have you thought of calling OSAA to see if they need someone for a deployment? I have seen guys (myself included) get the FWMEQC for a trip overseas as an augmentee and later go back to their RW platform. Free Multi (possible SE) commerical Inst. with multi-turbine experience. You'll probably not make PC on your first trip, but it is a great way to make friends with the KingAir.
Also, get the -60 IP course and then get your Mil Comp CFII R-H followed by a CFII/MEI fixed wing at a local school that you can turn around and teach for after.
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Old 03-13-2014, 02:05 PM
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Thank you for your information. I wish I did have a full-time guard job, sadly I am a mere MDAY puke... I have visited the website several times to obtain a lot of the information I currently know. I did try to hop the upcoming local OSA deployment, but I didnt make the cut... probably due to my rookie status... they always pick 47 pilots... I dont know why...
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Thank you for your information. I wish I did have a full-time guard job, sadly I am a mere MDAY puke... I have visited the website several times to obtain a lot of the information I currently know. I did try to hop the upcoming local OSA deployment, but I didnt make the cut... probably due to my rookie status... they always pick 47 pilots... I dont know why...
No, keep your M-Day job. Always. M-Day is NOT bad, nor are you a slug. I get grumpy when full timers look down on the people they are supposed to serve. All of the full-timers are there to keep the unit running while you are living your other life and have it ready for you when it's Mob/Activation/AFTP/Drill/AT time.

Full time guard jobs (GS,AGR,ADOS) are good and bad. If you can get one and the BS is worth it, jump on it. I have truly enjoyed my time, ADOS and Tech.
What you want to do, Wide Body Intl., isn't going to be achieved by becoming an SP in the Hawk. You need time in FW, however you get it. Multi-Turbine, FAR Part 1, PIC to be exact. Bigger the better.
There has got to be at least one Part 121 M-Day guy there at the AASF.

I'd say to keep bugging the OSAA people.
Have you actually called them? Do you need a POC?
We take Augmentees from with in our state, but there are also Det.s that need people to fill in their ranks from outside.
It will happen if you're willing to put in the time/energy/sacrifice.
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Yeah, Im staying in for at least 20, we do some pretty cool flying in my nick of the woods. Sadly, at my AASF any civilian pilots are all helo civ pilots, so no help there. I personally dropped off my packet for the deployment to the CW5 that was in charge of the DET, and I continue to talk/stop by to the CW4 ops officer every drill. I would love a chance to get into a C12 deployment/unit! any POCs would be appreciated!
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Originally Posted by MedHawk View Post
Yeah, Im staying in for at least 20, we do some pretty cool flying in my nick of the woods. Sadly, at my AASF any civilian pilots are all helo civ pilots, so no help there. I personally dropped off my packet for the deployment to the CW5 that was in charge of the DET, and I continue to talk/stop by to the CW4 ops officer every drill. I would love a chance to get into a C12 deployment/unit! any POCs would be appreciated!
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A Thank you to you good sir!
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I'm about 25 years ahead of you on this path. My background was 800 hours civilian fixed wing when I went to Mother Rucker for RWQC in 1981. Now I'm an early retired NWA Captain, who never had to call myself a a delta captain. (Lower case for a reason).

My email is my screen name at aol.com, drop me a note and I'll let you know what I did to get to Northwest at age 28.
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