Military Equivalency
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Military Equivalency
I am retired Navy but I am now flying C-12s on an Army contract. I have heard rumor that you can take the Army training, check ride and flight time to the FSDO and get signed off for the type rating. Does anyone have any information on this?
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Yes, as long as you have a commercial license or ATP you can get the King Air type for the C-12. You just need your NATOPS jacket or service equivalent with your checkride paperwork. I brought my logbook when I went, but they didn't look at it at the fsdo. Another examiner that I used for something else looked at my logbook with a microscope, so ymmv.
Fill out the IACRA online and check military equivalency.
If you don't yet have your commercial, go take the mil comp commercial test at your local flight school and then they will give you that as well.
I know a lot of guys have been using the C-12 for their ATP ride as well. It is allowed by all services, you just have to get your command to buy in and an examiner to come out.
Edit - just re read and saw you are now a contractor. That may be tough, but I would still give it a shot. Call the fsdo and/or talk to a local examiner. They will give you the lowdown. If it was an army course, they may allow it.
Fill out the IACRA online and check military equivalency.
If you don't yet have your commercial, go take the mil comp commercial test at your local flight school and then they will give you that as well.
I know a lot of guys have been using the C-12 for their ATP ride as well. It is allowed by all services, you just have to get your command to buy in and an examiner to come out.
Edit - just re read and saw you are now a contractor. That may be tough, but I would still give it a shot. Call the fsdo and/or talk to a local examiner. They will give you the lowdown. If it was an army course, they may allow it.
#4
My understanding of the program.
A designated military pilot who completes a course of training in an airplane with a civilian type rating can take that designation to the FSDO and be granted the type rating on his/her FAA certificate.
KC-10 pilot with a DC-10 type rating.
C-130 pilot with a L-382 type rating.
C-5 pilot who gets an assignment flying C-12s and does internal C-12 training can go to the FSDO and get the appropriate King Air type rating. Of course many of the guys I know getting this type of training are going through SimuFlite and getting the type added to their certificates.
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As AF aviator I've done this over the past 15 years for type ratings and obtaining and renewing my CFII.
I've heard over this time that the rules covering this have become easier to qualify for/use but my experience has been that it really matters what office and who you talk to within that office. Case in point--when I first did my ATP, CFI, and Lear type I called four different FSDOs and got four different answers on how to do it. I finally got one to accept my tests and paperwork without additional expense/hassle. Last year when I renewed my CFI, the FSDO here noticed that I had flown the C-141 and mentioned that next time I should file for a L-300 type and he would sign it off. I wasn't even aware it had a civilian equivalent.
So after visiting and using 8 different FSDOs over the years, I've learned to shop around if necessary and ask lots of questions.
As a 22 year govt employee even I dread my biennial trip to these offices since they limit days you can make an appt and it is like entering fort knox. I've called the local FSDO here probably 8 times since Nov to go add my english proficiency to ATP and have not received a single follow up call to schedule it--painful!
Not throwing spears since they are all professionals and are underfunded/under manned.
I've heard over this time that the rules covering this have become easier to qualify for/use but my experience has been that it really matters what office and who you talk to within that office. Case in point--when I first did my ATP, CFI, and Lear type I called four different FSDOs and got four different answers on how to do it. I finally got one to accept my tests and paperwork without additional expense/hassle. Last year when I renewed my CFI, the FSDO here noticed that I had flown the C-141 and mentioned that next time I should file for a L-300 type and he would sign it off. I wasn't even aware it had a civilian equivalent.
So after visiting and using 8 different FSDOs over the years, I've learned to shop around if necessary and ask lots of questions.
As a 22 year govt employee even I dread my biennial trip to these offices since they limit days you can make an appt and it is like entering fort knox. I've called the local FSDO here probably 8 times since Nov to go add my english proficiency to ATP and have not received a single follow up call to schedule it--painful!
Not throwing spears since they are all professionals and are underfunded/under manned.
#7
Like others have said the FAA should give you a type if you completed enough military training on a type-able airplane such that the military allowed you to fly it. If for some reason the FSDO gives you a hard time, try another FSDO.
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I don't think you have to have a commercial or ATP ... a private owner can fly a King Air on a private license, can't he? A commercial or ATP aren't necessarily required to get a type rating ... I was in the process of working with a local business owner and the two of us were going to get a type rating in an A6M3 Zero (bragging, I know!), and he only has a private license.
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