How hard are the reserves being used?
#32
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#33
Even better, join the ANG. I've been in 16 years now and have never met/heard of an ANG pilot who has been involuntarily, individually mobilized. Find a squadron that is a stand alone guard squadron (i.e....not attached to or on a AD base).
8 days or 8 pay periods? 8 days/month is a lot...even for an airline guy. 4...maybe 5 days a month is about my max.
*For reference...F-16 Guard guy.
*For reference...F-16 Guard guy.
#34
yeah, AFRC is AD lite these days. Also very difficult to find non-TFI (aka stand-alone aka non-associate) units anymore in the AFRC. The aggregate requirements for basic currency seem to be the highest on the fighter units. A lot of the heavies have requirements that can be knocked out in the sim and thus they can pull the sub-5 day a month participation average.
6-8 days of average participation is where we sit on our UPT trainer units, so it's really not out of the realm for a fighter unit to expect 8. On the high end, but not really surprising to me. Do recognize some units allow for quarterly average in lieu of hard monthly average. So you can bundle your way into an average that doesn't physically require the amount of commuting that would otherwise be required to meet said monthly average if you had to commute every month.
In the end it all depends on what stage in life you are regarding your mil/civ transition and what are the geographic particulars of your household. It would be sincerely uphill to fill all the fighter beans on less than 5 days.
6-8 days of average participation is where we sit on our UPT trainer units, so it's really not out of the realm for a fighter unit to expect 8. On the high end, but not really surprising to me. Do recognize some units allow for quarterly average in lieu of hard monthly average. So you can bundle your way into an average that doesn't physically require the amount of commuting that would otherwise be required to meet said monthly average if you had to commute every month.
In the end it all depends on what stage in life you are regarding your mil/civ transition and what are the geographic particulars of your household. It would be sincerely uphill to fill all the fighter beans on less than 5 days.
#35
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Even better, join the ANG. I've been in 16 years now and have never met/heard of an ANG pilot who has been involuntarily, individually mobilized. Find a squadron that is a stand alone guard squadron (i.e....not attached to or on a AD base).
8 days or 8 pay periods? 8 days/month is a lot...even for an airline guy. 4...maybe 5 days a month is about my max.
*For reference...F-16 Guard guy.
8 days or 8 pay periods? 8 days/month is a lot...even for an airline guy. 4...maybe 5 days a month is about my max.
*For reference...F-16 Guard guy.
#36
Ha, I can appreciate that! Wait until year 2 or 3 and see if you still feel the same.
#37
That's great to hear...always helps to have understanding leadership, and why I think the SQ/CC should always be a part time position. I would consider 8 days to be unreasonable. 4-5 (5 being my max) is more the sweat spot. However, to go more than 4 would require us to use 1 pay card per day (not happening), or for the Guard Bureau to cough up more pay days (also not happening). It might be easier in a non-deployable, FTU/UPT squadron, but the ops tempo in Alert tasked/deployable fighter squadrons has become almost unsustainable.
Wait until year 2 or 3 and see if you still feel the same.
Wait until year 2 or 3 and see if you still feel the same.
Things IMO will continue to deteriorate on the manning front, until the airlines hiccup again and stop hiring or resume furloughs. Then we'll all be back to the trough. The circle of life.
#38
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yeah, AFRC is AD lite these days. Also very difficult to find non-TFI (aka stand-alone aka non-associate) units anymore in the AFRC. The aggregate requirements for basic currency seem to be the highest on the fighter units. A lot of the heavies have requirements that can be knocked out in the sim and thus they can pull the sub-5 day a month participation average.
6-8 days of average participation is where we sit on our UPT trainer units, so it's really not out of the realm for a fighter unit to expect 8. On the high end, but not really surprising to me. Do recognize some units allow for quarterly average in lieu of hard monthly average. So you can bundle your way into an average that doesn't physically require the amount of commuting that would otherwise be required to meet said monthly average if you had to commute every month.
In the end it all depends on what stage in life you are regarding your mil/civ transition and what are the geographic particulars of your household. It would be sincerely uphill to fill all the fighter beans on less than 5 days.
6-8 days of average participation is where we sit on our UPT trainer units, so it's really not out of the realm for a fighter unit to expect 8. On the high end, but not really surprising to me. Do recognize some units allow for quarterly average in lieu of hard monthly average. So you can bundle your way into an average that doesn't physically require the amount of commuting that would otherwise be required to meet said monthly average if you had to commute every month.
In the end it all depends on what stage in life you are regarding your mil/civ transition and what are the geographic particulars of your household. It would be sincerely uphill to fill all the fighter beans on less than 5 days.
#39
In my heavy AFRC unit I was doing 2-3 days (all dual) a month and one tdy a year. I'd turn back in 5-7 AT days a year. Unless I had to deploy, which was every 15 months or so and would wipe out all my AT days.
#40
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That's great to hear...always helps to have understanding leadership, and why I think the SQ/CC should always be a part time position. I would consider 8 days to be unreasonable. 4-5 (5 being my max) is more the sweat spot. However, to go more than 4 would require us to use 1 pay card per day (not happening), or for the Guard Bureau to cough up more pay days (also not happening). It might be easier in a non-deployable, FTU/UPT squadron, but the ops tempo in Alert tasked/deployable fighter squadrons has become almost unsustainable.
Ha, I can appreciate that! Wait until year 2 or 3 and see if you still feel the same.
Ha, I can appreciate that! Wait until year 2 or 3 and see if you still feel the same.
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