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04-11-2012, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Flutter
So, you didn't understand the question? Here it is again, worded more simply for the intellectually challenged...
What facts would you like to discuss?
What facts would you like to discuss?
Again, you are welcome to bring up any facts you may have, or you may continue to avoid all facts as you have done so far.
It is amazing that you have not come up with a single fact to bolster your argument in several pages, we are starting to think you don't have any facts, because you certainly don't have any argument worthy of mention.
You might try stating your premise clearly first, then supporting it with facts, this would take you above the level of a mere noisemaker.
You might try this title: "Why I think the opinion of a Jello salesman is meaningful."
I think you are going to find life difficult if you rely on pure opinion as the basis for any point you are trying to make.
Last edited by jungle; 04-11-2012 at 01:07 PM.
04-11-2012, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jungle
It is amazing that you have not come up with a single fact to bolster your argument...
Originally Posted by jungle
I think you are going to find life difficult if you rely on pure opinion as the basis for any point you are trying to make.
04-12-2012, 12:19 PM
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Flutter, if you can ever manage to wean yourself off of the simple pudding pop philosophy, you may want to check out the real facts: indexed, footnoted, and easy to read: http://gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/...6.0-screen.pdf
Since you are deathly afraid of taking a stance, this might help you. Have a nice day.
Since you are deathly afraid of taking a stance, this might help you. Have a nice day.
04-12-2012, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jungle
Flutter, if you can ever manage to wean yourself off of the simple pudding pop philosophy, you may want to check out the real facts: indexed, footnoted, and easy to read: http://gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/...6.0-screen.pdf
Since you are deathly afraid of taking a stance, this might help you. Have a nice day.
Since you are deathly afraid of taking a stance, this might help you. Have a nice day.
Now, in the future, do not speculate on one's stance. You carry on and on about facts, yet you get swept away in speculation and assumption. Your emotions get the best of you.
Just the facts.
04-12-2012, 02:38 PM
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Wow, this thread would make a great introduction to logical fallacies for a class on critical thinking:
Ad hominem: Attack the man, not the argument
Ad populem: Public appeal
Loaded Question: Group multiple questions into one question:
Straw Man: Misrepresent an opponents argument in order to more easily refute it:
And that's just the last two or three pages
Ad hominem: Attack the man, not the argument
Originally Posted by jungle
Some people should just stick to that awesome Jello advertisement gig
Originally Posted by jungle
When everyone here sees you avoid the facts it makes you look bad
Originally Posted by jungle
Do you honestly think any rational human would fall for that line?
Originally Posted by jungle
Now, we know you trust the UN, but nothing else, I smell a trend here. Would that be the same UN which has stated its mission to be disarming and taxing all citizens of the world?
04-12-2012, 02:49 PM
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You forgot: Reductum ad Pudding Pop- quoting a jello salesman as a valid argument, and then failing miserably to defend it and eventually denouncing it and pretendending it really did not represent an opinion or argument of the poster.
Todd, your points might be valid, but there was never any argument to support what was just an opinion completely devoid of fact.
Even Flutter finally had to admit this, I was hoping he would try to support the opinion he posted, but he couldn't do anything but deny it.
I think cowardice is the word that fits best here.
Todd, your points might be valid, but there was never any argument to support what was just an opinion completely devoid of fact.
Even Flutter finally had to admit this, I was hoping he would try to support the opinion he posted, but he couldn't do anything but deny it.
I think cowardice is the word that fits best here.
Last edited by jungle; 04-12-2012 at 05:25 PM.
04-12-2012, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jungle
..quoting a jello salesman as a valid argument, and then failing miserably to defend it and eventually denouncing it and pretendending it really did not represent an opinion or argument of the poster.
But your heavy emotional attatchment to the obviously sensitive issue of gun control distracted you and led you down the lowly road of personal attacks, misrepresentations, loaded questions, and so on... as toad1200 pointed out, and you conceded.
Making assumptions and speculating on my beliefs is not consistent with demanding an argument based solely on facts.
04-13-2012, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Flutter
I presented Cosby's remarks, not as your opponent, but for the sake of argument to test the validity of your stance. This technique is often referred to as devil's advocate. I simply wrote "Cosby weighs in.." That's all I said.
But your heavy emotional attatchment to the obviously sensitive issue of gun control distracted you and led you down the lowly road of personal attacks, misrepresentations, loaded questions, and so on... as toad1200 pointed out, and you conceded.
Making assumptions and speculating on my beliefs is not consistent with demanding an argument based solely on facts.
But your heavy emotional attatchment to the obviously sensitive issue of gun control distracted you and led you down the lowly road of personal attacks, misrepresentations, loaded questions, and so on... as toad1200 pointed out, and you conceded.
Making assumptions and speculating on my beliefs is not consistent with demanding an argument based solely on facts.
I always enjoy the humor here, however the unintentional humor is often the best
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04-15-2012, 04:29 AM
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Some people buy too much gun
Here,s a short video on what not to do.
Guns dont hurt people. People hurt people. - YouTube
As this video shows if your going to buy a gun ,buy one that you can handle.
I remember an individual calling their rifle a gun and a certain movie scene flashed through my mind and I could,nt help but smile .
Ally
Guns dont hurt people. People hurt people. - YouTube
As this video shows if your going to buy a gun ,buy one that you can handle.
I remember an individual calling their rifle a gun and a certain movie scene flashed through my mind and I could,nt help but smile .
Ally
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