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ASACapt 10-28-2021 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by AirBear (Post 3315363)
The Citation Ultra/Encore and Hawker 400XP had "honey bucket" lavs, no external service. If I remember correctly we were allowed to tip $20 for the FBO guy to take those out and dump them. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think NetJets has any jets without externally serviced lavs now. Still the $5 tip has been the max since at least 2005, probably longer than that.


Lots has changed since you’ve been gone.


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ProfessionalSN 11-10-2021 02:34 PM

schedule and FO to Captain pay scale
 
I have not seen it answered.
How often can you change between 7/7,52, 76 schedule APC page shows? Is that seniority-based or company need?

And to verify. If you're a year, 10 FO, and upgrade, are you then a year 10 Captain as far as the hard pay scales show on APC?

I am waiting for my second interview in the process, hoping for the best. I have an Airline class date offer, but I think I want to chase the QOL NetJets seems to offer.

Thank you!

AirBear 11-10-2021 08:18 PM

I've been out on medical from NJA since 2017 so my info is dated but I believe it still works the same way.
Yes, a 10 year F/O will start the Captain pay scale at 10 years, I'm certain of that.
Changing schedules happens 3-4 times per year and is seniority based. Some schedules are limited like the 52 day and may need seniority to hold them. Everyone can hold the 7/7, it's the start days that require seniority. Mid week start days that allow you to have a full weekend on your 7 off tend to go more senior, I would be surprised if that has changed.

NetJets is great QOL, just not having to worry about commuting is fantastic. I flew for over 12 years there and it was very rare to do a tour and NOT see a new airport. Sometimes we'd even keep the same jet for the entire trip.

Good luck on the interview, and if you get hired I strongly suggest getting the Union Loss of Medical Insurance. I'm a great advertisement for it. Went out on medical at 60, I'm now 64 and drawing so much income from the plan I don't need to worry about working. I'll draw that income until age 68.5.


Originally Posted by ProfessionalSN (Post 3321144)
I have not seen it answered.
How often can you change between 7/7,52, 76 schedule APC page shows? Is that seniority-based or company need?

And to verify. If you're a year, 10 FO, and upgrade, are you then a year 10 Captain as far as the hard pay scales show on APC?

I am waiting for my second interview in the process, hoping for the best. I have an Airline class date offer, but I think I want to chase the QOL NetJets seems to offer.

Thank you!


jetlag7 11-10-2021 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by ProfessionalSN (Post 3321144)
I have not seen it answered.

How often can you change between 7/7,52, 76 schedule APC page shows? Is that seniority-based or company need?



And to verify. If you're a year, 10 FO, and upgrade, are you then a year 10 Captain as far as the hard pay scales show on APC?



I am waiting for my second interview in the process, hoping for the best. I have an Airline class date offer, but I think I want to chase the QOL NetJets seems to offer.



Thank you!

Just to elaborate on AirBear's response...

Schedule bidding occurs 3 times per year. A pilot will hold a particular schedule for Four months.

Schedules are held from February - May, June - September, and October - January.

Yes you keep your longevity when upgrading to Captain. I was a 13 year FO when I upgraded (gasp!) and immediately entered my new pay scale as a 13 year Captain.

Good luck!

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Sidewinder27 12-02-2021 06:31 AM

Not to mention you bid a flush bid in the summer after vacation awards are posted.
Come October you can stay on the 7/7 line you were awarded if you decide you want that. Now you know what you are doing for a whole year (Oct-Sep) and with your vacations tossed in. Works super well for pilots with kids and for some without kids, lol.
I used the 7/7 years back when my kids were younger and it was a plus for high school and travel sports. The tough part if you have prior time in 121 world is not being able to drop trips the same fashion as 121. Schedule manipulation is somewhat easier on a CC line. Trip slides have given 7/7 holders options too.
Side note, a huge plus is the zero cost health care. Now, it isn't totally free like military care was, but that's a different animal anyway. We pay ZERO towards the premium; which we know in today's world is a huge plus. Also, seeing a specialist doesn't require a visit to your general practitioner either.

jtf560 12-02-2021 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Sidewinder27 (Post 3330002)
Also, seeing a specialist doesn't require a visit to your general practitioner either.

This part is technically correct, but I've found the hard way that most specialists will still require a referral due to the lame health care system they are in requirements. I switched systems to try to avoid this and still just ran into it again. The rest of your post was dead on.

arrrrree 12-05-2021 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Sidewinder27 (Post 3330002)
Not to mention you bid a flush bid in the summer after vacation awards are posted.
Come October you can stay on the 7/7 line you were awarded if you decide you want that. Now you know what you are doing for a whole year (Oct-Sep) and with your vacations tossed in. Works super well for pilots with kids and for some without kids, lol.
I used the 7/7 years back when my kids were younger and it was a plus for high school and travel sports. The tough part if you have prior time in 121 world is not being able to drop trips the same fashion as 121. Schedule manipulation is somewhat easier on a CC line. Trip slides have given 7/7 holders options too.
Side note, a huge plus is the zero cost health care. Now, it isn't totally free like military care was, but that's a different animal anyway. We pay ZERO towards the premium; which we know in today's world is a huge plus. Also, seeing a specialist doesn't require a visit to your general practitioner either.



just curious how the CC lines work? Are you able to bid the 52 schedule as a new hire? And is there a way to shorten the trips from 7-8 days down to 4-5? Thanks

Sidewinder27 12-05-2021 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by arrrrree (Post 3331265)
just curious how the CC lines work? Are you able to bid the 52 schedule as a new hire? And is there a way to shorten the trips from 7-8 days down to 4-5? Thanks

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You can bid any schedule you want. What you receive is a different story. Always bid what you want and leave nothing to chance. Odds are as a new hire, or low time on the pole, you will not receive the 52 day.

If you don't want an 8-day tour then don't bid the long tour option. You bid it and they WILL assign an 8-day tour and you could get two with the required days off between each tour. Remember this is a schedule over a four month period. Be careful what ya ask for.

You can PTO a tour down, but as a new hire you'll only earn a PTO per month, like everyone, and not have a bank to pull from. If you are on a six day tour and you want the last two days off then you drop two PTOs and you're down to a four day tour. The schedules, method of moving tours, or dropping days are not like the airline world.

If you live in a base that allows the five-day max option then bid that on either the 60 or 72 day schedule. I've done the 60/5 over a summer and it was fine. One month I had a 17 days off with no tour slide or vacation time. Just the way my schedule was built. Another time I only worked six days in a month due to a vacation and days off. Five day max works to keep a short tour. However, for the FDP chasers you'll not amass much flying time. QOL vs FDP, it's all up to the pilot.

I hope this helps you get a better picture of the process.

Sidewinder27 12-05-2021 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by jtf560 (Post 3330161)
This part is technically correct, but I've found the hard way that most specialists will still require a referral due to the lame health care system they are in requirements. I switched systems to try to avoid this and still just ran into it again. The rest of your post was dead on.

I've, that means me and family, have not ever needed the sign-off of our GenPrac. We've had to use cardiologists, orthopedic, GI, polmologest, ENT, urologist and more, but I can't recall and the boss isn't around to ask. It was just call, schedule and go.

This is under at least the last two providers NJA has used. Now back in 2004, I don't recall cause it's a long time ago and I don't need to remember that stuff.

Had an intake receptionist, at a major hospital in my state , comment on our plan and how it's a very good plan in way of coverage.

arrrrree 12-05-2021 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by Sidewinder27 (Post 3331402)
-VCCCCCC

You can bid any schedule you want. What you receive is a different story. Always bid what you want and leave nothing to chance. Odds are as a new hire, or low time on the pole, you will not receive the 52 day.

If you don't want an 8-day tour then don't bid the long tour option. You bid it and they WILL assign an 8-day tour and you could get two with the required days off between each tour. Remember this is a schedule over a four month period. Be careful what ya ask for.

You can PTO a tour down, but as a new hire you'll only earn a PTO per month, like everyone, and not have a bank to pull from. If you are on a six day tour and you want the last two days off then you drop two PTOs and you're down to a four day tour. The schedules, method of moving tours, or dropping days are not like the airline world.

If you live in a base that allows the five-day max option then bid that on either the 60 or 72 day schedule. I've done the 60/5 over a summer and it was fine. One month I had a 17 days off with no tour slide or vacation time. Just the way my schedule was built. Another time I only worked six days in a month due to a vacation and days off. Five day max works to keep a short tour. However, for the FDP chasers you'll not amass much flying time. QOL vs FDP, it's all up to the pilot.

I hope this helps you get a better picture of the process.


yes that’s great thank you! What are the bases that are allowed to bid for max or 5 day stretches?


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