Textron Hemisphere Delayed (Netjets Order)
07-22-2019, 07:32 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver
Actually, most of them left in favor of their own airplane because they were tired of multiple customer service failures, mostly emanating from CMH. Lies from Owner Services, poor recovery times for weather or mechanicals, crappy catering (story is that was a primary reason for our most recent high profile departure), ground transport snafus, tired looking aircraft interiors, etc.
It wasn’t PRICE. It was VALUE. They are willing to pay for QUALITY service.
It wasn’t PRICE. It was VALUE. They are willing to pay for QUALITY service.
VALUE
PRICE
QUALITY.
I don’t know about large cabin but we are seeing MANY Owners happily return across the company following choosing to leave the program for greener (promised) pastures years ago.
They are happy to be back. Large cabin is likely a more stubborn segment with fewer clients. Given some more time, I don’t see why the trend wouldn’t continue and include GLC.
07-22-2019, 06:14 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by Egliderjet
Since the Challenger 650 can pretty much do MORE then an old GIV at 10 times the reliability, I would say we are at 60ish large cabin aircraft with more on the way.
..... That moment when you realize you’re talking to an honest to God idiot.
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07-22-2019, 07:54 PM
#45
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Originally Posted by Fredturbo
25. Replacing the CL350 fleet. Looks like more range and speed as well as technology.
07-22-2019, 08:17 PM
#46
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Originally Posted by MWilliams
Not replacing the 350 fleet. We will take the last 350 deliveries this year and there will not be any disposals for a long time to come.
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07-23-2019, 08:27 AM
#47
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The 350 and Longitude have some mission overlap, but they do have differences. Apparently the 350 has better payload for the same range, and if the Longitude has the same cabin as the Latitude then the 350's cross section feels bigger. The fortunate news is the company feels there is a place for both aircraft in our lineup. Personally I'm very much looking forward to the Longitude joining our fleet.
07-29-2019, 07:18 PM
#48
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I have to chuckle when pilots talk about how to run the business. You know, because they have all the information available to them to make all the decisions. They have the finger on the pulse of the entire operation based on one leg at a time. I make sure I get adequate rest, fly airplanes that are airworthy , stay off the FAA’s radar, and get paid every two weeks. I could care less what happens outside of that.
I wish I knew as much is you guys. I would be a CEO somewhere making all kinds of money instead of being a switch *****.
I wish I knew as much is you guys. I would be a CEO somewhere making all kinds of money instead of being a switch *****.
07-30-2019, 07:08 AM
#49
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Posts: 47
Originally Posted by OtherGuy
I have to chuckle when pilots talk about how to run the business. You know, because they have all the information available to them to make all the decisions. They have the finger on the pulse of the entire operation based on one leg at a time. I make sure I get adequate rest, fly airplanes that are airworthy , stay off the FAA’s radar, and get paid every two weeks. I could care less what happens outside of that.
I wish I knew as much is you guys. I would be a CEO somewhere making all kinds of money instead of being a switch *****.
I wish I knew as much is you guys. I would be a CEO somewhere making all kinds of money instead of being a switch *****.
Some things are obvious to people who have spent a life time in the industry and pay attention. One doesn't need to be a CEO to figure some things out.
07-30-2019, 09:24 AM
#50
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Position: PIC
Posts: 1,702
Originally Posted by hydra
There are some things that are obvious to even a lay aviation employee. For example, selling off a parts inventory and eliminating a preventative maintenance program is NOT a good idea for a fleet of over 400 airplanes, I don't care how much information you have. Eliminating high end on board amenities from airplanes that cost $25 million each is NOT a good idea. Purchasing an under performing, ugly, small, maintenance pig because of a good price point is NOT a good idea. Aggressively attacking your pilot labor force through intimidation and dubious terminations in NOT a good idea.
Some things are obvious to people who have spent a life time in the industry and pay attention. One doesn't need to be a CEO to figure some things out.
Some things are obvious to people who have spent a life time in the industry and pay attention. One doesn't need to be a CEO to figure some things out.
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