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Old 11-15-2019 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Enginethunder
Can owners request a pilot not be a crew member on their flights?
Yes they can, years ago we had a really senior Citation Ultra Captain who was an avid golfer. He pestered one leading PGA golfer so much that the golfer told the company not to put him on the golfer's flights anymore.

If you didn't know we're not allowed to ask for photos, autographs, or bug the owner about what they do.
Old 11-15-2019 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyiowa2024
All this growth but my app has been in since mid September and not a peep from Netjets. What’s the trick here folks?
Competing thoughts on how to get noticed.

Method 1: Send in a paper app/resume via FedEx. Maybe sure it’s filled out in red crayon. The bright colors are what indicates a confidence that is becoming of a pilot. Some may say make the application/resume into a mobile, I don’t recommend that approach, but it could be because I’m horrible at arts and crafts. Anyway, make it stand out. Make it POP! No fireworks though.

Method 2: Fly to CMH and “bump” into the head people. Takes a little work but it’s pretty easy to track them down. Hang out at the Centerfold Club across the way or the BBQ joint, City BBQ, you will run into many NJA people there. A lot of Republic guys too but I digress. Sit up near the registers. The NJA guys are easy to spot as they proudly display their ID for the discount and make sure everyone knows. That works for both the strip club and City BBQ BTW. Then chat them up. If they are your target audience take a photo of them and threaten to send it out on the web unless you get a job offer, This approach works once again for the strip joint and the BBQ joint.

Method 3: Walk up to the front gate, press the button and ask for HR and ask if they have any no shows, (Most likely the answer is yes). tell them you are dressed and ready for class. It’s a bold move, but sometimes the bold are rewarded with the riches. As an enticement use method 2 first and bring leftovers, BBQ that is not Centerfold Club leftovers, make sure you mention that while at the gate. That could be your ticket...

Method 4: At your local FBO wait for the QS tails to come in and bug them. Bring food, lots of it, they are suckers for the food. Maybe you luck out and they know someone. Offer to clean the honeypot load the bags etc, at the very least you will get 2 bucks, of course the pilot is claiming 5, but you have a chance of impressing Baghdad Bob types with your spunk. Bonus points if you are wearing a QS hat. Those are easy to get as most large cities Salvation Army stores have an ample supply, maybe pickup the 25th anniversary book also...

Good luck man, remember if you are hired bring a new box of crayons to class, they come in handy during International classes.
Old 11-15-2019 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DH2time
Competing thoughts on how to get noticed.

Method 1: Send in a paper app/resume via FedEx. Maybe sure it’s filled out in red crayon. The bright colors are what indicates a confidence that is becoming of a pilot. Some may say make the application/resume into a mobile, I don’t recommend that approach, but it could be because I’m horrible at arts and crafts. Anyway, make it stand out. Make it POP! No fireworks though.

Method 2: Fly to CMH and “bump” into the head people. Takes a little work but it’s pretty easy to track them down. Hang out at the Centerfold Club across the way or the BBQ joint, City BBQ, you will run into many NJA people there. A lot of Republic guys too but I digress. Sit up near the registers. The NJA guys are easy to spot as they proudly display their ID for the discount and make sure everyone knows. That works for both the strip club and City BBQ BTW. Then chat them up. If they are your target audience take a photo of them and threaten to send it out on the web unless you get a job offer, This approach works once again for the strip joint and the BBQ joint.

Method 3: Walk up to the front gate, press the button and ask for HR and ask if they have any no shows, (Most likely the answer is yes). tell them you are dressed and ready for class. It’s a bold move, but sometimes the bold are rewarded with the riches. As an enticement use method 2 first and bring leftovers, BBQ that is not Centerfold Club leftovers, make sure you mention that while at the gate. That could be your ticket...

Method 4: At your local FBO wait for the QS tails to come in and bug them. Bring food, lots of it, they are suckers for the food. Maybe you luck out and they know someone. Offer to clean the honeypot load the bags etc, at the very least you will get 2 bucks, of course the pilot is claiming 5, but you have a chance of impressing Baghdad Bob types with your spunk. Bonus points if you are wearing a QS hat. Those are easy to get as most large cities Salvation Army stores have an ample supply, maybe pickup the 25th anniversary book also...

Good luck man, remember if you are hired bring a new box of crayons to class, they come in handy during International classes.
Hahaha! Well played sir!
Old 11-15-2019 | 10:40 PM
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^^^^ Winner winner chicken dinner right there...
Old 11-16-2019 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DH2time
Reminds me of Baghdad Bob and his daily press briefings....
Baghdad Bob wasn't lying that much tho, no WMDs....
Old 11-16-2019 | 05:14 AM
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I thought we would have seen the first official Longitude with a QS tail out on the ramp by now... People have been saying 7 Longitudes by the end of the year and it was officially certified a few months back.

Maybe I shouldn’t be surprised... I would expect they could be useful during the busy Thanksgiving-New Year season. From what I have read it looks like a very capable airplane.
Old 11-16-2019 | 09:35 AM
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Lieber’s (AKA Mr 250) fantasy world is like Baghdad Bob riding It’s Small World in Disney. There is still 150+ airplanes to dispose, not even counting a slow down in the economy, NOT even counting some of the Signature fleet planes are coming up on 10 years. No doubt NJ will be receiving new planes for a while, but the vast majority are going to be replacements ONE FOR ONE.
Old 11-16-2019 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by howardhughes8
Lieber’s (AKA Mr 250) fantasy world is like Baghdad Bob riding It’s Small World in Disney. There is still 150+ airplanes to dispose, not even counting a slow down in the economy, NOT even counting some of the Signature fleet planes are coming up on 10 years. No doubt NJ will be receiving new planes for a while, but the vast majority are going to be replacements ONE FOR ONE.
Was same way in my 10+ plus years there.
Shell game, depending on whose speaking, the numbers look a certain way.
Bad job, nope.
Great job, nope.
Any perspective pilots who listen to Retractable (or FlyLow or whatever personality he takes on next) buyer beware.
Even his local at home friends warned me of his issues.

The place will never change.
Making money now, yes.
Gotta go get it though.

Too many lifers or old short timers who don’t have enough interest in a real fight.
Always a no voter.
Loved hearing it’s not “a mature contract” yet.
It isn’t the dawn of aviation, many other blue prints to follow.
Just need the troops willing to battle.
Never happen at NJA.
Biggest victory was Hansell going bye bye.
Old 11-16-2019 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by IamGroot
Was same way in my 10+ plus years there.
Shell game, depending on whose speaking, the numbers look a certain way.
Bad job, nope.
Great job, nope.
Any perspective pilots who listen to Retractable (or FlyLow or whatever personality he takes on next) buyer beware.
Even his local at home friends warned me of his issues.

The place will never change.
Making money now, yes.
Gotta go get it though.

Too many lifers or old short timers who don’t have enough interest in a real fight.
Always a no voter.
Loved hearing it’s not “a mature contract” yet.
It isn’t the dawn of aviation, many other blue prints to follow.
Just need the troops willing to battle.
Never happen at NJA.
Biggest victory was Hansell going bye bye.
“A mature contract”.

How exactly could NetJets be expected to produce 121 Big 3 contracts out of the gate when those same 121 Big 3 had a 70 year head start?

It’s not anyone’s fault but your own that you don’t understand how business works.

I’d say a hell of a lot of progress has been made in 4 short agreements.

Who’s to say what can happen in the next 4...

I only hope that your new choice provides as much in gains and value.

That’s more than you’ve wished us.

PS... More is gained in times of mutual peace than in the battlefield. Always.
Old 11-16-2019 | 07:16 PM
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Like I said before it’s like listening to Baghdad Bob.
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