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shrsailplanes 06-24-2020 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by MinRest (Post 3080138)
UPS and FedEx both will require written proof of resignation from the airline you are furloughed from before day 1 of Indoc. NJA could easily do the same. The real scary part is if you do that, and regret the decision, which a measurable percentage will. Lots will likely love the change though.

NJA didn’t like hiring airline pilots before because most airline pilots, even from regionals, left to the first major that called. I would imagine the barrier for entry into NJA as an airline pilot will be even harder now. Also, NJA isn’t in a position to hire a bunch of pilots anyway so it might be moot.

So, even if I was invited to interview, they may withdraw that invite based on the present situation with furloughs? That’s pretty unfortunate.

MinRest 06-24-2020 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 3080200)
So, even if I was invited to interview, they may withdraw that invite based on the present situation with furloughs? That’s pretty unfortunate.

They were actively weeding out anyone that presented any prospect of leaving for the airlines. I would bet serious money on NJA not hiring a single pilot on active furlough with a major. If they start requiring letters of resignation before sending a CJO, that might change things.

If you are current 121 and hate it, even if you have zero intention of ever leaving NJA once you get there, your chances of getting a fair shake are drastically less than a 135 pilot.

shrsailplanes 06-24-2020 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by MinRest (Post 3080240)
They were actively weeding out anyone that presented any prospect of leaving for the airlines. I would bet serious money on NJA not hiring a single pilot on active furlough with a major. If they start requiring letters of resignation before sending a CJO, that might change things.

If you are current 121 and hate it, even if you have zero intention of ever leaving NJA once you get there, your chances of getting a fair shake are drastically less than a 135 pilot.

Thank you for your honesty. I’d rather know I’m screwed than have hope that is misplaced.

Flyfalcons 06-24-2020 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 3080255)
Thank you for your honesty. I’d rather know I’m screwed than have hope that is misplaced.

You are not screwed. Don't worry about what outsiders say.

727C47 06-25-2020 03:17 AM


Originally Posted by Flyfalcons (Post 3080471)
You are not screwed. Don't worry about what outsiders say.

this, apply don’t listen to people not even on the property.....

biigD 06-25-2020 04:01 AM

I did hiring for a time at my 135, and we definitely had an aversion to hiring furloughed airline folks. It makes sense - you want someone to stick around, and with recall rights you can bet that most of them will leave once they get called back. But if a guy was well recommended and could convince us that he’d be around for awhile - we’d do it.

Blackhawk 06-25-2020 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by biigD (Post 3080523)
I did hiring for a time at my 135, and we definitely had an aversion to hiring furloughed airline folks. It makes sense - you want someone to stick around, and with recall rights you can bet that most of them will leave once they get called back. But if a guy was well recommended and could convince us that he’d be around for awhile - we’d do it.

135 and 91k such as NetJets are different worlds (for the most part). I could see some furloughed pilots staying at NetJets.

MinRest 06-25-2020 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by Flyfalcons (Post 3080471)
You are not screwed. Don't worry about what outsiders say.


Or, refute what I said. Did I say anything incorrect?

MinRest 06-25-2020 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 3080566)
135 and 91k such as NetJets are different worlds (for the most part). I could see some furloughed pilots staying at NetJets.


Furloughed airline pilots have stayed at NJA, and probably would again. But why would NJA take the risk on that when there are plenty of 91/135 pilots on the street looking for jobs that don’t potentially lose a risk of going back to the airlines?

Blackhawk 06-25-2020 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by MinRest (Post 3080592)
Furloughed airline pilots have stayed at NJA, and probably would again. But why would NJA take the risk on that when there are plenty of 91/135 pilots on the street looking for jobs that don’t potentially lose a risk of going back to the airlines?

"...going back to the airlines" as opposed to "...going to the airlines."? Many of those 91/135 pilots will leave at the first chance as well, though some will also stay.
Every pilot will say what they think you want to hear at the interview. If pilots have a reason to stay they will stay. If they perceive reasons to leave they will leave.


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