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I had an in person interview date for April and then everything went sideways. Anyone else here in that group? Passenger loads are getting bigger at my current job. Maybe things are looking up.

I was moving through the steps as well. Radio silence since the notice postponing the interviews in mid-March. I've heard from unofficial sources that they are not planning on flushing the interview pool, but have no direct confirmation. Crossing my fingers that I won't have to start the process over from the beginning once they start hiring again!

I also was in that group. I have since emailed my contact asking if. We’re being left in the “pool”... but radio silence

Also in that group. Hoping to hear good news soon.

From an email we got at the beginning of may we’ve paused the hiring but will pick back up at the last phase they were in before hiring was paused.

Don't be discouraged. Lots going on right now. We are picking up on flights, and barring anymore freakouts and media hype you should be hearing "something" by the late part of the year. Best of luck!

Not sure how much stock to put into it, but I did have the NJ recruiter reach out last week to check up on me and see if I was still interested in the position. First time since they went radio silent in mid-March that I’d heard from them. They didn’t have a timeline for restarting the hiring process, but I took them reaching out at all as a good sign.

Wouldn’t you expect Netjets, like other aviation businesses, to consolidate fleet types further? I know the X fleet is gone and Longitudes are slowly arriving. How much longer until the venerable XLS is gone?

Thats great news! Sounds really positive.

who knows? the mighty XLS is our DC3 😎✊

Fleet consolidation has its advantages, but giving the clients what they want is also beneficial for a company. The XLS may not be the sexiest offering, but there's a reason we still operate them.

Anyone have any new info on interviews and hiring? I’ll even take unsubstantiated rumors as I stare down the barrel of furlough in October.

Haven't heard anything on interviews yet. But our flight demand is around 75% of last year's levels and steadily increasing.

I recently had one of the recruiters reach out to check in on me again; no news, but I have to assume that if they’re trying to keep people interested, the hiring process will start again... soon? Hopefully?

I get the same email. I think it’s automated monthly.

just be prepared to answer the question, “if you’re recalled from furlough, are you going to go back?”

I started this process well before COVID-19. I had an invite to the in person interview and sim ride April 15. Then it all went bad. I wanted to leave the airlines then. I definitely would like to leave now and make netjets my “forever” home.

I will have an answer ready.

I was furloughed from USAirways in 2003, flowed down to a regional then got on at NetJets in 2005. Was recalled in 2007 and there was no way in hell I was going back. Loved the different kind of flying we did, the challenging airports and interesting pax we flew.

UPS and FedEx both will require written proof of resignation from the airline you are furloughed from before day 1 of Indoc. NJA could easily do the same. The real scary part is if you do that, and regret the decision, which a measurable percentage will. Lots will likely love the change though.

NJA didn’t like hiring airline pilots before because most airline pilots, even from regionals, left to the first major that called. I would imagine the barrier for entry into NJA as an airline pilot will be even harder now. Also, NJA isn’t in a position to hire a bunch of pilots anyway so it might be moot.

I think there will be some this time around who do the same, especially at places that have home basing and treat you well.

So, even if I was invited to interview, they may withdraw that invite based on the present situation with furloughs? That’s pretty unfortunate.

They were actively weeding out anyone that presented any prospect of leaving for the airlines. I would bet serious money on NJA not hiring a single pilot on active furlough with a major. If they start requiring letters of resignation before sending a CJO, that might change things.

If you are current 121 and hate it, even if you have zero intention of ever leaving NJA once you get there, your chances of getting a fair shake are drastically less than a 135 pilot.

Thank you for your honesty. I’d rather know I’m screwed than have hope that is misplaced.

You are not screwed. Don't worry about what outsiders say.

this, apply don’t listen to people not even on the property.....

I did hiring for a time at my 135, and we definitely had an aversion to hiring furloughed airline folks. It makes sense - you want someone to stick around, and with recall rights you can bet that most of them will leave once they get called back. But if a guy was well recommended and could convince us that he’d be around for awhile - we’d do it.

135 and 91k such as NetJets are different worlds (for the most part). I could see some furloughed pilots staying at NetJets.

Or, refute what I said. Did I say anything incorrect?

Furloughed airline pilots have stayed at NJA, and probably would again. But why would NJA take the risk on that when there are plenty of 91/135 pilots on the street looking for jobs that don’t potentially lose a risk of going back to the airlines?

"...going back to the airlines" as opposed to "...going to the airlines."? Many of those 91/135 pilots will leave at the first chance as well, though some will also stay.
Every pilot will say what they think you want to hear at the interview. If pilots have a reason to stay they will stay. If they perceive reasons to leave they will leave.

Beat me to the punch. Well said. I’m about to be furloughed from a major. Not sure I’ll return if called. Money’s great, but there’s just something that doesn’t sit right with me. Can’t quite put my finger on it. Maybe a look at 135 flying might reveal what it is.

Yes. First, this individual is already in process of being invited to interview. NJA has not rescinded invites for those in process, only delayed them.

Second, plenty of our new hires have 121 experience. NJA knows these pilots have a better chance at making it through training than those with mom and pop 91 or 135 carriers that have varying degrees of training intensity, standardization, and expectations. Our training pass and failure statistics cannot be ignored.

Sometimes when a question is posed to people on property, it is best when people on property provide an answer instead of people who have been gone longer than they were on property.

Let me help you out. Commuting to sit reserve on an NB versus being home-based.
I currently live in base with a legacy so coming here, while a difficult decision, was an easier choice. 2-3 years from now if I'm recalled I will probably be living in a location that would force a commute for the last 5 years of my career. Different math.

I understand - I didn’t say all of them would, just most, and I think that’s true. It’s not a knock on NetJets - it’s just there’s a reason airline pilots are airline pilots, and a furlough generally doesn’t change that.

There’s a reason we called it the ‘airline stink’ in my 135 days! :D

Again, I think each case will depend on the perceived cost/benefit of each pilot. Let's be honest- many 135 pilots move to 121. I saw some in my new hire class. But that would be a discussion under 135. Fractionals or normally different which is why they have a different section.
NetJets has advantages over the airlines for some people. Those who have seen both sides of the fence may find the "greenness" of the 121 world to have turned a little brown when their recall comes up depending on their situation.

I never said they rescinded interview invites. I said that in the not so distant past, those with airline backgrounds have been scrutinized because a measurable percentage of those with prior 121 time, went back to 121, and that furloughed airline pilots would have a really hard chance at getting hired given the small amount that NJA is hiring. That is an undeniable fact.

To answer your final statement, if you want those on property to field questions, then answer them honestly and realistically. They were scoffing at hiring prior 121 pilots when I worked at NJA. You think NJA is going to hire currently furloughed airline pilots when they might hire 100 this year total? Get real.

Wait... you worked at NJA and left, but give 121 pilots applying grief because they might leave?

I made it through 2/3 stages and was invited to the third and final stage. I would think that means netjets wants to hire me. All my jet time is 121.

I can see that. I live in base though. I don’t know. Maybe it’s the “just a line number” thing. Different than a career in the Corps I guess.

Just to clarify. I think my post was confusing.
I am at a legacy. Going to the legacy was an easier decision at the time as I knew I would live in base.
I am looking at being furloughed from a legacy.
By the time I am recalled, I probably won't live in the legacy base and would have to commute to sitting reserve if I went back.
So in 2+ years when recalled I might stay wherever I am if it's a good place with home basing.