I see you skimmed over the part where he said “last flight of the day” but let’s just say there is another airline that departs after. Is it guaranteed that you can “simply” walk over in time for the flight and that it isn’t sold out and someone is already in the jump seat? You know commuting for an airline is not the same as “commuting” for a fractional.

Will you ever admit that some people have different life circumstances than yourself and this job works for them better than it did for you? I have no problem telling someone that if my life circumstances were different I would most likely have chose a different path.

So please explain to me how your scenario c pilot finishing in base has anything to do with the discussion of a commuting airline pilot and a fractional pilot commuting to work.

It doesn’t. I’m just salty

At least you can admit that. As I always say “A b!tching pilot is a happy pilot”

Anyone who continues to harp about perceived disadvantages of a previous employer while singing praises for their new employer is trying to justify their decision to leave.

There is definitely something there.

Yes, it's called rationalizing. A typical defense mechanism that we learn about when we study for our CFI's.

The arguement that commuting on your own time via jumpseating or non revving is superior to having a paid ticket in hand, on duty while being paid is beyond stupid.

There are no doubt some advantages to flying for the airlines vs fractional, but commuting to work isn't one of them.

The whole "move to your base" argument is B.S. as well. Try telling your wife and kids that "we're all moving to Chicago or Atlanta or New York so daddy doesn't have to commute anymore."

Guess what that leads to, when the already high divorce rate is even higher in the aviation industry.

Honestly; IMO, if someone lived in base at a legacy airline, and could get hired at that airline…. You’d have to try real hard to convince me that NetJets would be the better choice. Unless the contract improves, I don’t see that changing…. Even if the furlough risk from airlines increases.

If you already lived in said base and are happy there, absolutely. Upping and leaving to move to your base (in my case San Diego to Houston) then having to commute anyway when you upgrade (in my case to Newark) sucks huge, sweaty donkey balls.

I'll won't tolerate that B S. again and neither will my family. That's why I'm with a frac. The potential pay I'm missing out on at the legacies is still worth it for me, and arguably a wash if I were to pay alimony anyway.

Will any NJA pilot admit that working for an airline doesn't always involve a 4 leg miserable commute, up hill in the snow both ways? What continues to happen, is these endless hypotheticals where working for an airline is miserable, and flying for NJA is heaven on earth. Tons of airline pilots don't commute at all and I can tell you as somebody who never rides in the back of an airplane to then go fly one, NJA is much closer to commuting than anything I do. I am not trying to sell anyone on the airlines, I could care less where anyone works, but every hypothetical that exists in these NetJets threads are NJA versus horrific commuting for the airlines, I am simply defending that idea.