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MinRest 10-06-2022 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by Pervis (Post 3507562)
Anyone who continues to harp about perceived disadvantages of a previous employer while singing praises for their new employer is trying to justify their decision to leave.

You mean like every NJA pilot doing that exact same thing? lol

TeamSasquatch 10-06-2022 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Das Auto
If you already lived in said base and are happy there, absolutely. Upping and leaving to move to your base (in my case San Diego to Houston) then having to commute anyway when you upgrade (in my case to Newark) sucks huge, sweaty donkey balls.

I'll won't tolerate that B S. again and neither will my family. That's why I'm with a frac. The potential pay I'm missing out on at the legacies is still worth it for me, and arguably a wash if I were to pay alimony anyway.

I’m in full agreement with you. Geographically speaking, NJ is the best thing for my family and I.

For my wife and kids, the 7/7 is very stable for them. And to me, 7 days flys by. When I talk with friends about their ACMI 16 day schedule, they rave about it. To me, 16 is way too long. And for others, 7 is way to long to be away…. Interesting dynamics for everyone in the industry.

MinRest 10-06-2022 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by TeamSasquatch (Post 3507738)
I’m in full agreement with you. Geographically speaking, NJ is the best thing for my family and I.

For my wife and kids, the 7/7 is very stable for them. And to me, 7 days flys by. When I talk with friends about their ACMI 16 day schedule, they rave about it. To me, 16 is way too long. And for others, 7 is way toolong to be away…. Interesting dynamics for everyone in the industry.

7 days on is a long time, but totally agree about ACMI, that is absolutely unreasonable. 7/7 is a pretty sweet schedule overall.

Deserthusker 10-06-2022 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by MinRest (Post 3507735)
Will any NJA pilot admit that working for an airline doesn't always involve a 4 leg miserable commute, up hill in the snow both ways? What continues to happen, is these endless hypotheticals where working for an airline is miserable, and flying for NJA is heaven on earth. Tons of airline pilots don't commute at all and I can tell you as somebody who never rides in the back of an airplane to then go fly one, NJA is much closer to commuting than anything I do. I am not trying to sell anyone on the airlines, I could care less where anyone works, but every hypothetical that exists in these NetJets threads are NJA versus horrific commuting for the airlines, I am simply defending that idea.

Never said everyone commutes at an airline and that it is hell on earth. My thing is you say you are not trying to sell anyone on airlines but you continually come into the forum of a previous employer and talk negatively about a company that many find satisfactory and that meets their needs.

Pervis 10-06-2022 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by MinRest (Post 3507736)
You mean like every NJA pilot doing that exact same thing? lol

Every NJA pilot may ***** about anything and everything company, but I’ve never seen one continuously rant about a previous employer. We’ve all moved on. Except for you that is.

MinRest 10-07-2022 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Deserthusker (Post 3507757)
Never said everyone commutes at an airline and that it is hell on earth. My thing is you say you are not trying to sell anyone on airlines but you continually come into the forum of a previous employer and talk negatively about a company that many find satisfactory and that meets their needs.

I don't bash NJA, but I will argue against those who create hypotheticals to make the airlines look terrible, and NJA look like an oasis. There are negatives at all companies and I could legit care less if anyone leaves for the airlines. There are tons of threads comparing NJA to the airlines, or if they should leave or not. Offering a perspective from somebody that left and is happy with the decision, is a completely valid thing to have in the threads here. You can absolutely find NJA to meet your needs, that is fantastic, but there are also many that don't find that it meets their needs so in all actuality, why are you commenting in a thread where the premise is people leaving unless things improve? You aren't leaving and you seem to be happy enough, so why join a thread about leaving?

MinRest 10-07-2022 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Deserthusker (Post 3507757)
Never said everyone commutes at an airline and that it is hell on earth. My thing is you say you are not trying to sell anyone on airlines but you continually come into the forum of a previous employer and talk negatively about a company that many find satisfactory and that meets their needs.

This thread is LITERALLY about what it would take for people to stay, with the implication that if that doesn't occur, people would leave. Sounds like all people DONT find it satisfactory and it may NOT meet their needs, hence the thread.

Deserthusker 10-07-2022 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by MinRest (Post 3508294)
This thread is LITERALLY about what it would take for people to stay, with the implication that if that doesn't occur, people would leave. Sounds like all people DONT find it satisfactory and it may NOT meet their needs, hence the thread.

The thread is LITERALLY about what it would take for people to stay. You Didn’t. You left how long ago? How much has changed since you left? What have you contributed to this thread that shows what NJA could have done to make you stay?
Stop making blanket statements. Of course EVERY single person here doesn’t find it satisfactory. People leave jobs. Guarantee all people at your current job don’t find it satisfactory also.

loadedred 10-07-2022 12:51 PM

As someone who is starting at Netjets on the 24th of October, I found this forum very interesting to read, and also a little amusing. Overall, I am still really excited to go from a humble flight instructor to flying something a little nicer. I am also glad that either former or current NetJets pilots are trying to gather momentum for another round of contract negotiations looking for a raise, the regionals have matched NetJets in first year pay now, so interesting to see If NetJets responds.

Deserthusker 10-07-2022 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by loadedred (Post 3508419)
As someone who is starting at Netjets on the 24th of October, I found this forum very interesting to read, and also a little amusing. Overall, I am still really excited to go from a humble flight instructor to flying something a little nicer. I am also glad that either former or current NetJets pilots are trying to gather momentum for another round of contract negotiations looking for a raise, the regionals have matched NetJets in first year pay now, so interesting to see If NetJets responds.

Welcome. Glad to have you. Hopefully if you talked to someone before coming here they were honest with earning potential. Budget for salary and the rest is gravy.


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