Buyout at Netjets?
03-18-2009 | 02:03 AM
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I hope it's a board of certificated AME's and not Junior pilots with no medical training who would personally benefit from the removal of a senior pilot. Otherwise, I predict there will be some very wealthy older retired pilots.
Seriously, what is an aeromedical committee, and what might the requisite qualifications be to sit on such a committee?
Seriously, what is an aeromedical committee, and what might the requisite qualifications be to sit on such a committee?
03-18-2009 | 09:53 AM
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From: NJA CE680 terminated
Before you get excited about 500-600 guys over 60, how many of them are actually senior to you? In my newhire class, 3 of 8 are over 60 and all 3 of us are in the bottom 100 on the seniority list. Other classes will vary but the old guys are not all at the top of the list. As someone mentioned above, the average age at NJ is probably mid 40s and it may be less.
Assuming no reduction (ie furloughs), you can expect to stay wherever you are now until the economy picks up significantly. That is the way business cycles and a seniority system have always worked. Over a career, there will always be periods of stagnation along with, hopefully, growth. Many pilots forget how much luck and timing affect their careers no matter how good they think they are.
Assuming no reduction (ie furloughs), you can expect to stay wherever you are now until the economy picks up significantly. That is the way business cycles and a seniority system have always worked. Over a career, there will always be periods of stagnation along with, hopefully, growth. Many pilots forget how much luck and timing affect their careers no matter how good they think they are.
03-22-2009 | 05:20 AM
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I think this is a bad idea, determining fitness for flight. But what can you do, the FAA is more concerned about were are ash trays are right now.
03-23-2009 | 09:24 AM
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Medical examinations do NOT test mental aptitude, only general physical condition. That was the part I was referring to.
As for sim training, we all know of those who fall through the cracks and are only kept safe by the pilot flying next to them........
As for sim training, we all know of those who fall through the cracks and are only kept safe by the pilot flying next to them........
03-30-2009 | 06:50 PM
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And some age groups are more prominent than others...... Seniority buys you additional union protection and protracted attempts at termination while new hires are thrown to the curb for any offense. Nuff said, this thread is way off track.
03-31-2009 | 08:34 AM
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Altitude adjustment
"Of all the companies, I think NetJets will come out of this downturn best".
The Columbus Dispatch : Area's private-jet industry buffeted by recession, public backlash
The Columbus Dispatch : Area's private-jet industry buffeted by recession, public backlash
03-31-2009 | 03:54 PM
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Blue, I don't know where you got that picture. Granted, new hires are vulnerable,but only while on probation. Typically that is the first year. After that, unions defend all members to the full extent of their resources. Now internally, there are many cases where different groups have lost or gained based on politics and the relative voting power (and cohesion) of each group. And there are cases where junior dumped on senior as well as the reverse. When union members vote, each vote carries the same weight, regardless of seniority. Hopefully, most of the time they will try to do what is best for the whole. Also, remember that senior was junior once and junior wants someday to be senior. It is not a good idea to mess up the place you want to occupy.
04-21-2009 | 05:23 AM
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answering the question
Before this thread was hijacked and became an "over the hill" debate.... the original post asked if there would be a "buyout" at Netjets.
The answer is "yes" a comprehensive early retirement package was presented to the pilot group yesterday.
The answer is "yes" a comprehensive early retirement package was presented to the pilot group yesterday.
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