Flight student seeking info about NetJets
#11
The above post is right, the aviation degree really doesn't do anything for you. But I've been furloughed twice in the last year and a half with no chance at being recalled (both companies tanked) and even if I could afford to do something else I wouldn't. I have a wife, baby, and a house and even with all the burdens the only place to go is forward, and find where the flying is. The only advice I would give is live within your means, don't be picky with the flying you get until the economy gets better, don't jump to an airline unless you're sure you can afford to lose your job for a bit in case things turn nasty, and if you even consider getting out, doing it sooner rather than later will save you lots of pain and agony. But good luck...you're gonna need it.
#13
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
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I wouldn't wish this profession on my worst enemy...
#14
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: Furloughed
Posts: 429
Don't worry we are not your competition. Another regional thread was trying to talk about how all the NJ furloughed guys are gonna take all the regional jobs. Not gonna happen. I will make more on unemployment than any regional job out there and can sit on it for well over a year. Thanks Obama. Oh and if you don't have a flying job it is your own fault. You just aren't willing to work cheap enough. Call some corporate operators and offer to fly for free or maybe even offer to pay them and you will have plenty of "work"
#15
#16
Don't worry we are not your competition. Another regional thread was trying to talk about how all the NJ furloughed guys are gonna take all the regional jobs. Not gonna happen. I will make more on unemployment than any regional job out there and can sit on it for well over a year. "
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#17
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,235
all Fractional pilots,
I am a flight school student currently going through an aviation science program at a community college. I am taking an aviation careers class this term that requires me to research three aviation companies of my choice: SkyWest, NetJets, and Southwest. A lot of the information I need to find can't really be found on the internet and so I need to talk to a fractional employee, preferably a pilot, to get this information. The reason I have chosen these companies is because from what I have heard and read, they are great companies to fly for and treat their employees well.
Here is a list of the information I need:
I am a flight school student currently going through an aviation science program at a community college. I am taking an aviation careers class this term that requires me to research three aviation companies of my choice: SkyWest, NetJets, and Southwest. A lot of the information I need to find can't really be found on the internet and so I need to talk to a fractional employee, preferably a pilot, to get this information. The reason I have chosen these companies is because from what I have heard and read, they are great companies to fly for and treat their employees well.
Here is a list of the information I need:
- History (when it was founded, by whom, any interesting facts or records)
- Mergers/takeovers/acquisitions (when, by whom, what happened as a result)
- Organization chart/Important people (including chief pilot “person with the power” to hire you and their contact info)
- Number of employees (by job type, i.e. mechanics, pilots, office personnel)
- Financial information (annual revenues, stock history, any bankruptcies)
- Fleet (types of aircraft, how many, bases, age, any new orders)
- Schedules (where they fly and how often)
- Any “hot issues” that have appeared in the news recently related to your company
#18
Not a fractional pilot. The best thing you can do for yourself is under no condition finance flying, pay as you go. You will live on nothing which will give you practice in how you will live the first few years of working as a pilot. Avoid debt always, don't buy anything that doesn't have wheels under it, rent the places you live in, have a room mate who doesn't work in aviation, if you get married make sure she has a mobile job that pays well, when you think you are where you want to be with the career don't let your debt exceed your wifes take home check until you are out of the bottom 20% of the seniority list. If you reach your limit of what you can take to get to the job you want, quit and don't look back. Whats been said about the aviation degrees is correct, they are worthless if you don't fly. Major in real engineering of some type. Good luck, if you make it its worth it.
#19
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Home with my family playing with my daughter as much as possible
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My contact information is [email protected] or if anyone would like to contact me by phone: 503-956-0330. A little more specific info. I am going through Portland CC and doing my flying at Hillsboro Aviation at KTTD. My first name is George.
Thank you to all of you who have given me an honest report of how tough the aviation industry is- especially right now. I'm glad for that input as it gives me an opportunity to explain some of the meat and potatoes of the kind of person I am I am 28 years old and have seen a lot of the grim realities of the cold shoulder most people call the real world. I grew up under Portland's airspace shelf and so have wanted to be a pilot since I was four years old. I started my flight training back in 2006, earned my private pilot's license, then had to put off my flying for almost a year because the airlines were hiring up instructors as fast as they could and so good CFIIs became a rare commodity at flight schools. After a year and a half of one set back after another I got my instrument rating. Working on my commercial license hasn't been any better- one delay after another. I haven't figured out why some people aspire to fly planes and other people either run from them or don't care one way or another. Flying planes is my passion and calling and one I don't intend to abandon. Perhaps this puts me at a big disadvantage because the problem with knowing what you want to do is that you won't be happy doing anything else. All pilots stand on the shoulders of aviation pioneers who came before us. All of those pioneers became legends because they never gave up no matter what. The Tuskegee airmen are a good example of this aviation tenacity. You can all quote me on this one if you like, but I love to tell people a simple, yet profound truth I have figured out- the only difference between successful people and failures is that successful people are failures who never give up! I'm sure a lot of pilots reading this are thinking, "sounds great, but you have a lot to learn kid!" I know I have only begun to learn everything there is about aviation, but Damn it! I'm not giving up no matter how hard it gets! When it comes to discouragement and difficulties I say, "bring it on!" I love discouragement and difficulty as they are the fuel that keeps me fired up!
Thank you to all of you who have given me an honest report of how tough the aviation industry is- especially right now. I'm glad for that input as it gives me an opportunity to explain some of the meat and potatoes of the kind of person I am I am 28 years old and have seen a lot of the grim realities of the cold shoulder most people call the real world. I grew up under Portland's airspace shelf and so have wanted to be a pilot since I was four years old. I started my flight training back in 2006, earned my private pilot's license, then had to put off my flying for almost a year because the airlines were hiring up instructors as fast as they could and so good CFIIs became a rare commodity at flight schools. After a year and a half of one set back after another I got my instrument rating. Working on my commercial license hasn't been any better- one delay after another. I haven't figured out why some people aspire to fly planes and other people either run from them or don't care one way or another. Flying planes is my passion and calling and one I don't intend to abandon. Perhaps this puts me at a big disadvantage because the problem with knowing what you want to do is that you won't be happy doing anything else. All pilots stand on the shoulders of aviation pioneers who came before us. All of those pioneers became legends because they never gave up no matter what. The Tuskegee airmen are a good example of this aviation tenacity. You can all quote me on this one if you like, but I love to tell people a simple, yet profound truth I have figured out- the only difference between successful people and failures is that successful people are failures who never give up! I'm sure a lot of pilots reading this are thinking, "sounds great, but you have a lot to learn kid!" I know I have only begun to learn everything there is about aviation, but Damn it! I'm not giving up no matter how hard it gets! When it comes to discouragement and difficulties I say, "bring it on!" I love discouragement and difficulty as they are the fuel that keeps me fired up!
#20
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 161
I say the opposite...We have a lot to learn from you...DON"T GIVE UP...if this is your dream...then GO GET IT BROTHER!!! Don't listen to anyone tell you that you are crazy or this industry is nothing that you expect. But I must warn you...do your research carefully...cause there are a lot of hiddens in everything that you do. But thats with anything that you do. My advise...be careful with your loans...keep the blue side up...have fun and stay motivated!!! God Bless!!!
Forward and upwards!
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