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Old 06-03-2017, 09:11 AM
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Does anyone have more info about the status of Great Lakes? I've read rumors here on APC that they're furloughing pilots but I can't find anything official. Most of us have predicted they wouldn't last this Pilot crunch and it appears to be unfolding as predicted.

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Nothing on either the Denver Post's or Cheyenne (WY) paper's website as of Monday.

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They are still flying, however lots of planes sit idle in Denver.
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Quick glance at their customer website. For tomorrow they only have about one third of the towns with flights scheduled out of Denver. Whether temporary or permanent it sounds to me the footsteps of the grim reaper are getting louder. Just my observation.
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It would suck to see them go under only because they are very convenient for me. A lot easier to fly them out to Los Angeles from Prescott than to have to drive down to Phoenix. If they do go under I better get a refund.
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It would suck to see them go under only because they are very convenient for me. A lot easier to fly them out to Los Angeles from Prescott than to have to drive down to Phoenix. If they do go under I better get a refund.
If Great Lakes went out of business, wouldn't EAS from Prescott be awarded to another carrier, whether to LAX or PHX. -- or to someplace? I hear the odds are Great Lakes is losing Pueblo; Skywest may be awarded it instead.

The bigger concern for you is if EAS was eliminated from Prescott, regardless of who was flying it. (I am not trying to start any rumors, just thinking aloud.)
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If Great Lakes went out of business, wouldn't EAS from Prescott be awarded to another carrier, whether to LAX or PHX. -- or to someplace? I hear the odds are Great Lakes is losing Pueblo; Skywest may be awarded it instead.

The bigger concern for you is if EAS was eliminated from Prescott, regardless of who was flying it. (I am not trying to start any rumors, just thinking aloud.)
Your correct, if they go out of business, as long as someone picks up the Prescott route then it will be fine. As long as EAS remains in Prescott I wouldn't mind seeing a new carrier come in, in fact I'd prefer it.
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If (When!) GLA goes out of business, they therefore stop flying to their contracted EAS cities (and the rest of their shrinking map). Presuming a Chapter 7 rather than Ch 11 - they seem to have had their Ch 11 chances, even if it wasn't done through the courts .

The question: What happens to the EAS 90-day notice to quit, and the Federal obligation to continue service until a replacement takes over?

Do the Feds get to arm-twist some other carrier to take over immediately? And 'immediately' isn't truly 'immediate,' given the need for the incoming folks to hire staff, get or re-assign aircraft, do proving flights, negotiate with the EAS people, etc.

Any way you look at it, sounds like there will be a gap between the EAS hard places and GLA's 'rock.'
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