There's quite a few regionals out there that have paused hiring or ARE hiring but their class dates were much further out than Silvers.
Its all about getting 121 as fast as possible so this was a viable option. For me, commuting was the last thing I wanted. Everyone has their reasons...

Feb 20 was my date

Keep in mind that Silver is the old GulfStream international airlines renamed. Their reputation for training and the quality of pilots produced was about as low as can be. The program you are trained in does have a big impact on getting hired for future jobs.

New routes being added this month (Orlando to Marsh Harbour and Orlando to North Eleuthera). New Routes being added next month Orlando to Greensboro, NC and Nashville. Also adding additional daily routes between Orlando and Pensacola.

Additional planes are scheduled to be delivered this year. Right now N706SV is in NC getting work done to be added to the fleet. N708SV is enroute from France to be next in line to have work done to be added to the fleet.

Things are looking up for the company, just need a solid string of good luck (and decision making) instead of the bad luck that always seems to find itself at Silver.

Hi, I need to jumpseat from pns to tpa next week. Any idea how often the flights are payload optimized?

Shouldn't be an issue. That short of a route they won't take on a huge amount of fuel and can easily pack the plane.

A couple of quick Questions
 

Fro you folks in the know.

Currently live in SAV and notice that silver wings flys in and out on the way to TPA/FLL.

Is this a home every night at your base type flying, or do u have overnights.

Is this a commutable job from SAV?

How many legs are you doing a day.

What are the flight benefits like.

Feel free to add anything else you think might be important or PM me is you want to keep it private.

Thank you all
Sam.

Me, too! I'm all in & all ears. :D


atp

So, for right now, either way you go, it's off the flight deck at 65. Right?

atp

Wow...that would really bite for me. I live in West Palm Beach. FLL would be like a "walk in the park". :p

atp


atp

For the most part, SAV would be commutable but not necessarily on Silver as Silver does not fly to/from SAV every day. As a pilot, you could jump seat on other airlines through CASS and get there.

Almost all flights Silver flies are home in base every day. There are talks of having a few overnights here and there but nothing specific.

For Florida based, you can plan on doing anywhere from 2-6 legs per day.

Flight benefits, beyond jump seat privileges, include:
- ID 90 travel on other airlines (after 6 months from date of hire) and free flights on Silver, for you, spouse/domestic partner, kids, and parents.
- You currently get 12 one way buddy passes that be given to any one of your extended family members or friends per year.

If you want a great quality of life (home every day/night), Silver is a great place to work. Very few airlines allow for home in base every day. If you are wanting to commute, cost will go up as you will need a Crashpad/hotel since they don't have very many overnights. They offer an extra $300 per month to help offset the cost of commuting and staying in a hotel/Crashpad at their AFW base.

Thank you for the quick input something to think about.
Sam

Just wondering...you live in Florida?

atp

Savannah, Ga.

Below is what I've gone over in my mind ah thousand times. Looking for constructive feedback, not criticism or validation. Cool?...Cool!


Wow! That's great news. Not sure how old some of you guys are, but I'm 61, born,raised and currently living in West Palm Beach. Not sure how long it'd take me to get to hiring minimums. Being that SA is 121 and currently having to leave the flight deck at 65...I dunno. Personally, I hope it's raised to 65, hell even 70 for that matter. Some may say that as we age, we lose certain physical and mental attributes. Hogwash. Life expectancy has increase over the years b/c of people being more health conscience. Although I have a couple of health issues, they will not preclude me from flying professionally. Also, some may say that I'm being selfish and that I have SJS. To that point, I quote former President DT...go have intercourse with yourself...for lack of better terms and not using the vernacular. There are as many different ways to achieve the hiring minimums as there are people on this earth...LOL! Below are the paths I've considered to get to hiring min:

Do Part 141 flight school (zero to hero in 7 months)
Part 61...cheaper; but still fly 4-5 times a week
Part 61 up to Comm w/ME rating; then time build in a ME a/c

As I've said, I dunno. I could still do one of the aforementioned and do the Part 91/Part 135 (cargo) bop. Fly till you die. I guess I'm just gonna have to wait and see what comes down the pipeline.


atp

I always encourage students to pursue their dreams regardless of how old you are. Being that you currently are under a time crunch if the airlines are your dream of preference, there are several things to consider:

1) if you are just starting out and don't have the time yet to be hired, on average, most will take 18 to 24 months just to earn their certificates/ratings and an addition a 12 to 18 months to meet ATP minimums.
2) the ATR is one of the hardest Types to achieve. As someone with multiple types, I can attest to this.

I would never discourage you from achieving your dream of flying for an airline.. however, I would say to consider the possibility of part 91/135 operations instead due to your possibly limited timeframe. If you can get everything done by 63.5, sure... Get hired and get a year of experience (invaluable). Then (assuming age requirements haven't changed) find a part 135 or 91 gig

AFW:

I appreciate you shooting straight from the hip. Yeah, I've always dreamed of saying, "Good evening from the flight deck folks. This is you CA speaking". I did fail to mention that I've always been interested in aviation since being knee-high to a duck. I'm former Civil Air Patrol (PB Cadet Squadron), Former US Army, and a 1987 grad of ERAU/Daytona Beach. Got my Bachelors in Air Studies w/aoc in Air Transportation Mgmt. I got a zillion hours of MSFS in the Cessna 172, BE-58, KA-350, and the B-737-8.No, it's not actual but, I figure I got a jump on things so to speak.

Again, preciate the transparency.

atp

Jumpseat
 

I’ve recently been denied the jumpseat the last 2 times by the gate agent in EYW when I’ve tried riding on you guys. The first time, there was a seat open but they said my roller board would put the flight overweight and the second time was completely full minus the jumpseat. Just curious to know if that’s a common issue or if the gate agent was just trying to get the flight out quick. Flight was EYW-MCO both times. I’ve had luck before getting a seat in the back and am always appreciative of the Silver crew for getting me on! Appreciate the input!

Sorry we couldn't get you on our flight! Our team in Key West is pretty good, They won't deny you just to deny you... I've taken numerous jump seaters from Key West. If we're carrying a lot of bags, and/or if there is a lot of weather (which tends to happen in FL this time of year) and we have to file an alternate with lots of extra fuel it can certainly put us to where we max out on weight.

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Only thing I can think of is EYW is very weight limited for the runway. Otherwise, there is no policy thing I can think of that would keep them from authorizing you on the jump seat for the flight.

Thanks for the feedback guys! Always a pleasure seeing y’all around!

AFW Cargo side
 

For those in the know:

What is the training foorprint for new hires flying Cargo?
Is it more of a quick turn around or any overnights?
What are the routes of of AFW?
Do you need to meet Part 121.436 in order to upgrade?

thanks for those who will answer.

- Training footprint is the same regardless of where you are based at first:
--- 3.5 weeks of ground school, 3-4 weeks to complete flat panel training and sim training (six sessions each), the about 1-2 weeks of OE.
--- AFW pilots also have to do a 500 differences course (training is in the 600) which takes one day of ground and 3 sim sessions

- Due to cargo configuration, flights are 1.5 to 2 hours away, you sit for about 1.5 to 2 hours to unload/load, then fly back

- Current routes: flights from AFW to - Des Moines, Kansas City, Mobile, and Omaha.

- All 121 operations require you to meet times listed in 122.436 to upgrade, regardless of passenger or cargo ops.

AFW Cargo side
 

For those in the AFW:

How many hours do you guys fly in a month on average?
Is it true you guys get an additional living allowance for being based in AFW?
Do you see any slow down on the Amazon load factor in the coming months?

Line holders average 75-80 hours per month.

Yes, we get a $300 monthly housing allowance.

The load factor varies a lot, even day to day, but I don't see it slowing down overall.

AFW:

Are cargo operations operated under 121 or 135? If 121, then that means a crew member upon reaching his/her 65th birthday for now, would have to come off of the flight deck...correct?


atp

121 and yes that’s correct

Amazon ceases ATR operations
 

Effective July 3rd, 2023 all Amazon ATR operations operated by Silver Airways will cease.

What will happen to the AFW based crew? Will they move to the pax side?

Status
 

might be a good time to read your contract and contact your union for answers.

Any truth to this claim?

Nothing official has been announced.

Teamsters confirmed

Email from the CEO of Silver as well as the Union.

They will be displaced to a new base in the passenger network.

Can someone tell me a typical monthly schedule? FO or Capt either one. Just curious how many days on then off.

Days On/Off
 

Typically, the average is about 12-13 days off. Some schedules have as much as 16 days off. The schedule varies but usually around 3-5 days on followed by 3-5 days off. Occasionally only 2 days off depending on how the schedule is built.

Schedule
 

show up, fly until extended. Repeat daily until 30/168 saves you.

Is Silver still hiring F/Os?

They are. All bases. TPA and FLL are most senior. MCO is hard simply because there isn't as many pilots. SJU is in definite need of FOs.