Island Air - Hawaii
04-10-2017, 10:19 AM
#92
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
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Originally Posted by falsecracks
There are a few commuters in the recent classes, but they will soon learn this is not a commutable position like your traditional airline. Being new here, you get 10 to 13 days off. Add driving to the airport for every trip. This is a at home every night, improved quality of life gig.
If you're senior and get 15 to 16 days off, maybe it's commutable. But factor in a 5 to 6 hour flight to/from the west coast and a 2 to 3 hour timezone change depending on daylight savings and you're setting yourself up for burnout. Commuting from another island is definitely more reasonable than the mainland. Many more interisland flights between us, Hawaiian, and Trans Air.
If you're senior and get 15 to 16 days off, maybe it's commutable. But factor in a 5 to 6 hour flight to/from the west coast and a 2 to 3 hour timezone change depending on daylight savings and you're setting yourself up for burnout. Commuting from another island is definitely more reasonable than the mainland. Many more interisland flights between us, Hawaiian, and Trans Air.
04-11-2017, 07:00 PM
#93
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Position: Armchair Capt
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Originally Posted by falsecracks
There are a few commuters in the recent classes, but they will soon learn this is not a commutable position like your traditional airline...Commuting from another island is definitely more reasonable than the mainland. Many more interisland flights between us, Hawaiian, and Trans Air.
04-15-2017, 06:31 PM
#95
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 530
Originally Posted by doritos
Hi! just wanted to ask some questions, I rly think Island Air is a good company to join as a pilot. I am living on the mainland but my family resides in HI (can go back any time). considering applying to Skywest or Island Air. my few concerns are, is Island air time okay when applying to majors? apparently people are moving on, so I guess it's okay with TPIC time from Island air but only 3 different destinations originating from PHNL. Will flying get redundant soon..?
Starting pay for F/O and bonuses seem very nice from Island air, compared to mainland regionals! I guess there's pros and cons depending on what one values the most.. having hard time deciding!
Starting pay for F/O and bonuses seem very nice from Island air, compared to mainland regionals! I guess there's pros and cons depending on what one values the most.. having hard time deciding!
I can tell you that I personally know an individual who is the poster child for Hawaiian airlines but they turned him away because he needed mainland jet experience (icing thunderstorms big terminal airspace etc). He had plenty of 121 turboprop island hopping yime.The majors recognize the difference. Not saying island air time is useless by any means but I would say stay in the CONUS unless you're looking to simply enjoy the hawaii lifestyle and get to that great career airline a bit later.
05-23-2017, 07:25 AM
#96
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 17
Originally Posted by spikemath
How is the training at Island Air? Where is it provided and who are they contracted with? Is their street captain training pretty good?
VPT (vritual procedure trainer) will occur just before you go to sim. 3 to 4 days of VPT in HNL. Sim training is in Seattle Flight Safety. 9 sim lessons. Then Oral and checkride. Average sim footprint is 15 to 18 days from the day you arrive til you leave. Most crews get Island Air instructors, but Flight Safety instructors are utilized as well. The oral and checkride are administered by an Island Air APD. You'll get some days off between lessons so give yourself a mental break and explore Seattle.
IOE is 5 days for both FOs and CAs.
As with any new aircraft, there are some growing pains. Our training manuals need updating. Overall it's a good program. Just have a good attitude, don't complain and you'll get through it. If you need extra sim sessions, the company will give you more time as long as progress is made and (again) you have a good attitude. I heard recently 2 pilots were given a second round of 9 sim lessons. Another pilot failed the checkride and was a source of constant complaining. Got the boot!
05-27-2017, 08:45 AM
#98
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 17
Originally Posted by 1900dr
Great post. Is training Advance Qualification Program (AQP)? How about EFB for charts, manuals and company documents? Planning on starting in the summer.
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