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Old 08-03-2020, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
I'm not looking for one, I have a good job, I just posted this because it was causing quite the stir on Facebook.

But if one was going to buy a type rating, what would you recommend?
One guy’s opinion; no one should have to purchase a type rating. Any reputable operator will pay to have their crew properly trained. I hope we don’t go back to those dark times were this was more common, but I’m not surprised we’re headed down this path. Back when I started in the business, guys were paying for 737 types just to get a chance at an interview with Southwest. It worked out for a lot of them, so I try not to be judgmental.

In an alternate universe where Gordon Gekko was my passenger and passing me stock tips that would allow me to quickly recoup what I paid to fly him around, I would say the best value for a type is something common like a Citation, CJ, Hawker, or maybe an Excel. There are a lot of these aircraft operating and they are generally on the lower end of the type cost. But that’s moot because Gordon would never lower himself to fly around in something so paltry.
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Old 08-03-2020, 05:02 PM
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Yeah, it was illegal then too. Nobody cared. The operators knew it, the pilots knew it, and as long as the duty logs were filled out 'correctly', so did the POIs. It's like that scale that sits unused in the baggage compartment for weighing luggage.

You're right that it won't happen if the pilots won't allow it, but in today's world that's exactly what I'm worried about.
The biggest problem with this scenario is not that everyone turns a blind eye, it’s that the POIs don’t care or more often I fear, don’t know. Doesn’t take much to become an ASI, and someone who has never flown in the type of operation can come in and start making changes to an operator no matter how that effects them.

My first job was with an operator that believed they could change our start time after the fact. All it took was one pilot in good standing to step up and say they wouldn’t do it to get the policy changed.
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Old 08-03-2020, 06:44 PM
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They will get 100 applications for this. It’s 2008 all over again.
Or worse, 1994 again. Nearly every big airline furloughed or went out of business and it took 4000TT/1000ME to get right seat in a Saab, Jetstream, or Metroliner. All for $12000 per year. And that’s before they went to pay for training..

I still wouldn’t pay for a type, especially for anything South Florida 135.
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
I'm not looking for one, I have a good job, I just posted this because it was causing quite the stir on Facebook.

But if one was going to buy a type rating, what would you recommend?
Something you can contract in—Global, Gulfstream, Challenger. A few bought G7500 types—exclusive club that’s getting big money—$4,000 a day for some.
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:20 PM
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Something you can contract in—Global, Gulfstream, Challenger. A few bought G7500 types—exclusive club that’s getting big money—$4,000 a day for some.
Is it possible to get hired with zero time in type?
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Is it possible to get hired with zero time in type?
this is the real problem... you need time with the type rating.
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Old 08-04-2020, 06:55 AM
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Is it possible to get hired with zero time in type?
In the contract world, you might, especially if you have other good experience
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