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Old 09-16-2009, 05:04 AM
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Charter crashes expose oversight failures - USATODAY.com
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Old 09-16-2009, 05:43 AM
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Generally I feel the same about the USA Today. However this story seems to echo the things I have seen in 135 ops. Compared to 121 ops it is a whole other world. There are certainly some good outfits, but many are operating in the shadows of legality.
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I agree. There are some shaddy 135 ops out there that need to be shut down as they are giving us a bad name but the article delivers it's point. Bad people do not always get caught until it's too late.
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I agree that there are some illegal operations with certain 135 ops but what is the point with this line:

"NTSB investigators discovered that the charter company's chief pilot, the captain of the fatal flight, was a convicted drug runner."

Did the captain crash because he was on drugs at the time? Media, anything to sell an article!!!!
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"NTSB investigators discovered that the charter company's chief pilot, the captain of the fatal flight, was a convicted drug runner."

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Assuming this is true ( and with the media who knows ) how would this guy even get through to becoming CP. I mean doesnt the FAA have to approve these guys??? How would he even hold a First Class medical???
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:45 AM
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That is my point of why I hate USA Today. I don't disagree that illegal stuff isnt' going on. Hell I've pushed my crews to 91 2hrs after a 12 hour flight day so I would have to pay for a hotel and they could come home. But when they put meaningless crap that makes the industry look bad, that's just plain crap.
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"NTSB investigators discovered that the charter company's chief pilot, the captain of the fatal flight, was a convicted drug runner."

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Assuming this is true ( and with the media who knows ) how would this guy even get through to becoming CP. I mean doesnt the FAA have to approve these guys??? How would he even hold a First Class medical???
I'm sure that a drug runner might not be the most honest person on the FAA medical

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Hell I've pushed my crews to 91 2hrs after a 12 hour flight day so I would have to pay for a hotel and they could come home.
Probably not the smartest thing to write in a public forum.
Considering it is a violation of many things.
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Wow, did you just admit to pilot pushing on a pilots website....... That will make you very popular around here....LOL. No wonder USA Today did an article.
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I have worked at a number of 135 ops as well and I know there are a lot of bad ones out there. A charter company here in my city just recently went under (finally) and a few of their aircraft owners brought there jets over to our company. Because maintenance was so shady at the other company it was going to cost so much money to get what was before an 'airworthy' plane in legal working order again the owner said to park it. Yes the article made it's point I guess but really did not back up it's claim. It cited some accidents but really failed to deliver the connection between what was wrong and why it was a lack of oversight that caused it. Maybe it's just the ops I've been at and the FAA folks I know but I think there is plenty of oversight. The rules in place should be enough. Do we really want or even need more?
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