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CaptainCarl 01-09-2009 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by 3wire (Post 534257)
I am wondering if you have ever flown into a high threat environment? Have you ever expended chaff or flare because your RWR has lit up? These jobs pay big bucks because it is inherently dangerous and takes skill and poise under the most demanding circumstances.

Fly or die. Where do I sign up?

USMCFLYR 01-09-2009 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by CaptainCarl (Post 534265)
Fly or die. Where do I sign up?

If you want to get into the fight - visit your local recruiting office; but you might have to leave the *cowboy* mentality behind. People lives might be at stake.

USMCFLYR

3wire 01-09-2009 08:25 AM


Fly or die. Where do I sign up?
Thank you USMCFLYR... My point is.... If this is the prevailing thought and/or viewpoint, or an ethos to which you subscribe to, then why not join the military as an Aviator and defend your nation fighting under the flag for a modest (and surely liveable) paycheck? You can get shot at, get paid, have full benefits, and fly for YOUR nation. In addition, you will be trained properly and given amply flight time. Of course, it will require a substantial commitment on your part... probably 8-12 years at a minimum depending on which service you join.

Chasing big bucks to fly in a combat zone might be a little different than most think and/or expect is my humble perspective. :)

CaptainCarl 01-10-2009 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 534299)
If you want to get into the fight - visit your local recruiting office; but you might have to leave the *cowboy* mentality behind. People lives might be at stake.

USMCFLYR

When I believe there is a fight to be won, I will gladly sign up. Until then, the price needs to be right for me to fly in a fight that will have no end. As for the *cowboy* mentality, let me explain my logic behind the "fly or die" statement:


Originally Posted by 3wire (Post 534257)
I am wondering if you have ever flown into a high threat environment? Have you ever expended chaff or flare because your RWR has lit up? These jobs pay big bucks because it is inherently dangerous and takes skill and poise under the most demanding circumstances.

I was merely making an observation about 3wire's statement of "...it is inherently dangerous and takes skill and poise under the most demanding circumstances." If I were a pilot in that position, my choices are simple: Fly or die. If you lose your composure and start making irrational decisions, you might end up dead, along with the men you are transporting. So, my comment "fly or die" was not so cavalier as it seems, just an observation on the choices given to any pilot in a high-risk environment.

There is a method to my madness. Usually... :D

USMCFLYR 01-10-2009 08:14 AM



Originally Posted by CaptainCarl (Post 534849)
When I believe there is a fight to be won, I will gladly sign up. Until then, the price needs to be right for me to fly in a fight that will have no end.

Then in this case you certainly don't belong in the military. It is not the military member's decision which fights are worth fighting or not. Those decisions are made by our duely elected civilians leaders. As for the re not being a fight worth winning going on right now - I couldn't disgree more; but further discussion on that topic here would lead to political discussion against the TOS.


There is a method to my madness. Usually... :D
Yes - that statement makes much more sense.

USMCFLYR

Time2Fly 01-10-2009 08:44 AM

Not to take this thread further off topic but, does the military look down on people that have done DOD contract stuff and then later go to sign up?

USMCFLYR 01-10-2009 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Time2Fly (Post 534996)
Not to take this thread further off topic but, does the military look down on people that have done DOD contract stuff and then later go to sign up?

I don't know the answer to your question; but I often don't see people going from contract work (or working with a private company) to the military. I'll use explosive ordnance disposal as an example. The contract workers working side by side with us during OIF 2 were making about 5 times more than the young Marines doing the same work.

USMCFLYR

cruiseclimb 01-15-2009 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Time2Fly (Post 534996)
Not to take this thread further off topic but, does the military look down on people that have done DOD contract stuff and then later go to sign up?

To be honest it's very rare to see someone with the amount of experience that Blackwater requires entering the military to fly. There is the occasional pilot entering MIL flight school with several ratings, but most guys come off the street with possibly a private, rarely a commercial, and very rarely heavy hours and lots of commercial experience. If you go to work for Blackwater or a a similar contract company, I would think the clearance they would grant you and the high threat flying, would make your military package more attractive.

Most everyone I know flying there is ex military. I know there are some civilians as well, everyone is pretty experienced.

Vee1 08-17-2010 05:55 PM

Presidential Interview Process
 
Does anyone have any gouge on the current Presidential Interview Process?

belliott 08-17-2010 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by Vee1 (Post 857245)
Does anyone have any gouge on the current Presidential Interview Process?

You get called for an interview?


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