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Jetlife 06-23-2013 06:03 PM
Originally Posted by Hawker445 (Post 1432231)
Well they have taken well over 4,500 applicants. With a $500 initial deposit Plus $1650 a month, that is well over 6 million dollars in the first month alone..

The PC12 is also pretty nice to operate per hour. SO i think this company is going to be very successful
This sounds like total Kool-Aid to me...

Panzon 06-23-2013 09:12 PM
Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 1433352)
There is no such thing as single pilot IFR pax 135 ops. Freight is another matter, but the FAA is pretty open about not allowing an autopilot in lieu of an FO when pax are involved.
Hmmm. Better tell Era, then. They fly Caravans IFR with PAX all the time.

gold 06-23-2013 10:10 PM
Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 1433352)
There is no such thing as single pilot IFR pax 135 ops. Freight is another matter, but the FAA is pretty open about not allowing an autopilot in lieu of an FO when pax are involved.
There are many pax 135 companies out there operating turboprops single pilot, I don't know about jets though.

Jetlife 06-24-2013 06:14 AM
Originally Posted by gold (Post 1433535)
There are many pax 135 companies out there operating turboprops single pilot, I don't know about jets though.
I am not aware of any in the lower 48.

gold 06-24-2013 08:24 AM
Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 1433651)
I am not aware of any in the lower 48.

Yes, there are 135 pax companies that operate turboprops single pilot in the lower 48. I worked for one operator, they had a single-engine pressurized turboprop.

Jetlife 06-24-2013 08:54 AM
Originally Posted by gold (Post 1433718)
Yes, there are 135 pax companies that operate turboprops single pilot in the lower 48. I worked for one operator, they had a single-engine pressurized turboprop.
Interesting, who?

gold 06-24-2013 09:52 AM
Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 1433735)
Interesting, who?
I send you a PM.

FlyinFoSheezy 07-30-2013 08:34 AM
I believe this company still operates single pilot 135 turboprops Sky Trek Aviation

Gjn290 07-30-2013 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 1433352)
There is no such thing as single pilot IFR pax 135 ops. Freight is another matter, but the FAA is pretty open about not allowing an autopilot in lieu of an FO when pax are involved.
That's not true at all. You most certainly can fly single pilot 135 IFR pax operation with an auto pilot in lieu of an SIC. It states it very point blank in the Regs; FAR 135.105. My company is certified single pilot IFR in pax carrying operations. So was my previous 135 outfit.

FlyJSH 07-30-2013 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 1433352)
There is no such thing as single pilot IFR pax 135 ops. Freight is another matter, but the FAA is pretty open about not allowing an autopilot in lieu of an FO when pax are involved.
Wow, I guess I should expect a whole bunch of violations for the seven years I flew 135 single pilot pax.


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