Does sim time count for total time?

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01-02-2013, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by adspilot

I have all my sims logged as sim. However, my question is, "Does the 1200 rule allow you to use any sim time?" If I have 1150 total time and 50 hours of sim time to equal 1200.

It requires 75 hours of instrument "atleast 50 hours in actual flight". So this exception seems to allow instrument sim time. However, can I use any part of my sim time to add to my total time.

Unless it is a class D sim, which is highly unlikely, then no. That 25 hour of instrument sim time you have illustrated does not go towards total time either.

01-02-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HercDriver130

I agree....except I do log the approaches and landings as they are valid for currency. (Level D of course)

Definitely allowed to log approaches and landings. I just don't bother personally since I dont need them for currency and the training record I receive has them detailed in the event I need to show them to the FAA.

01-02-2013, 10:45 AM

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The aeronautical experience requirements for the private, commercial and ATP all list what sim/FTD time you can credit towards their requirements. Since you say "1200 hour rule" I'm guessing you mean 135.243(c)(2). That reg also allows credit for non-aircraft time towards the 75 instrument time requirement. Since the other regs state what sim/FTD time counts and 135.243 gives credit for non-aircraft time for one requirement, given that 135.243 does not give sim/FTD credit for the total time requirement, I'd say no, you need 1200 hours logged time in an aircraft that has left the surface of the earth to be PIC under 135.

01-02-2013, 11:22 AM

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Thanks that answered my question!

01-03-2013, 05:36 AM

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Great Thread

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Originally Posted by HercDriver130

I agree....except I do log the approaches and landings as they are valid for currency. (Level D of course)

All responses in this thread are good and I agree. HercDriver130 is correct about approaches and landings for currency. When an air carrier has relief pilots in international operations, it's possible to lapse on landing currency and in that case, a Level D simulator meets the FAA requirements for the 3 take-offs and landings. Also as a sim instructor, this is how we maintained "currency" when we spent long periods of time in the box.

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