FBI's aviation program
#11
They have several aircraft(varies) and last time I checked you had to be an Agent. Their policy of making Agents pilots istead of pilots agents has already cost them dearly. My info is probably dated, but I doubt much has changed. Not really the place to be if you want to be a pilot.
#13
Border patrol is the same way. I have no idea why they do it but they do.
Two, if you put an officer in a plane, they are a cop first and pilot second which means they probably are not going to go to XJT after they get 1500 hrs. Good use of taxpayer dollars.
Spongebob
#14
One, because even in a plane you are subpoenable, not to mention you need to know the rules regarding law enforcement while you are flying (why on my drug ops deployment we had Coast Guard guys on a Navy ship and why we always flew with them, and why we couldn't share our intel with them as it became subpoenable after a bust, and we didn't want to burn our sources)
Two, if you put an officer in a plane, they are a cop first and pilot second which means they probably are not going to go to XJT after they get 1500 hrs. Good use of taxpayer dollars.
Spongebob
Two, if you put an officer in a plane, they are a cop first and pilot second which means they probably are not going to go to XJT after they get 1500 hrs. Good use of taxpayer dollars.
Spongebob
#16
On Reserve
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Posts: 15
Marlboro Airport
Mike,
Were you referencing Marlboro AIrport in Marlboro MAssachusetts? That parking lot airport in front of the apartment buildings that is only 1700 feet long I think?
I'm thinking about doing some short field work there... its so small man and those trees are too close to final.
Were you referencing Marlboro AIrport in Marlboro MAssachusetts? That parking lot airport in front of the apartment buildings that is only 1700 feet long I think?
I'm thinking about doing some short field work there... its so small man and those trees are too close to final.
#17
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Joined APC: Apr 2021
Posts: 1
FBI Aviation
I was a FBI Agent for 27 years.
I flew for 22 of them.
I started as an observer as I learned to fly.
My instructors were two agents. One was a former Navy instructor the other was a ex USAF KC-135 IP.
He was on furlough from a major carrier. All three of us subsequently retired as full time pilots.
I obtained my Private on my own.
I was eligible for GI Bill Flight straining so I expended all my benefits.
Received my Multi Engine, Instrument, Commercial CFI Multi and Instrument.
I subsequently applied and was transferred to the WDC area. So were my former instructors.
I was able to attend Flight Safety for the Mitsubishi Marquise, Commander Jet Prop, and the Sabreliner series.
Also flew several different piston twins. Plus a Citation V just before I left. Received my SE ATP on my own, ME when typed in the Sabre.
We did FLIR surveillance, expedite transportation, evidence transportation, aerial photography, and executive transportation.
A great job, I flew to all the contiguous 48 states, Central/S. America, Canada, and US Caribbean Islands.
I retired in 2021 making about a 100k+. I made as much in retirement as my take home pay.
My military service counted towards my annuity.
I never went back inside an FBI office for assignment and always had a take home vehicle.
I flew Sabres and the Hawker 800 for 10 years as a corporate pilot.
The last I knew my old unit got rid of all the turbo props except a DHC 8. Jets are GVs and Citation(s).
Field office aircraft were C-210s and C-182RGs and Caravans. The 210s and RGs have been replaced by C-206s.
Helicopters are a different bailiwick.
Jet Rangers, Bell 412s, Aerospatiale, and some Blackhawks.
We had a few NAPs (non agent pilots) but only one lasted to retirement.
An entirely voluntary program agents flow in and out.
Many would prefer to be investigators.
Some are only part time positions in smaller offices as opposed to Chicago, Detroit, Miami, and San Juan to name a few that the positions are full time.
I had a good career both as a street agent and pilot.
A few guys left for the airlines over the years, others opt for management.
A believe there is a pilot recruitment slot in the application process.
I flew for 22 of them.
I started as an observer as I learned to fly.
My instructors were two agents. One was a former Navy instructor the other was a ex USAF KC-135 IP.
He was on furlough from a major carrier. All three of us subsequently retired as full time pilots.
I obtained my Private on my own.
I was eligible for GI Bill Flight straining so I expended all my benefits.
Received my Multi Engine, Instrument, Commercial CFI Multi and Instrument.
I subsequently applied and was transferred to the WDC area. So were my former instructors.
I was able to attend Flight Safety for the Mitsubishi Marquise, Commander Jet Prop, and the Sabreliner series.
Also flew several different piston twins. Plus a Citation V just before I left. Received my SE ATP on my own, ME when typed in the Sabre.
We did FLIR surveillance, expedite transportation, evidence transportation, aerial photography, and executive transportation.
A great job, I flew to all the contiguous 48 states, Central/S. America, Canada, and US Caribbean Islands.
I retired in 2021 making about a 100k+. I made as much in retirement as my take home pay.
My military service counted towards my annuity.
I never went back inside an FBI office for assignment and always had a take home vehicle.
I flew Sabres and the Hawker 800 for 10 years as a corporate pilot.
The last I knew my old unit got rid of all the turbo props except a DHC 8. Jets are GVs and Citation(s).
Field office aircraft were C-210s and C-182RGs and Caravans. The 210s and RGs have been replaced by C-206s.
Helicopters are a different bailiwick.
Jet Rangers, Bell 412s, Aerospatiale, and some Blackhawks.
We had a few NAPs (non agent pilots) but only one lasted to retirement.
An entirely voluntary program agents flow in and out.
Many would prefer to be investigators.
Some are only part time positions in smaller offices as opposed to Chicago, Detroit, Miami, and San Juan to name a few that the positions are full time.
I had a good career both as a street agent and pilot.
A few guys left for the airlines over the years, others opt for management.
A believe there is a pilot recruitment slot in the application process.
Last edited by the1dogman; 04-18-2021 at 09:26 AM. Reason: Addition to text.
#18
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Joined APC: Apr 2021
Posts: 2
The FBI pilot program has evolved quite a bit from the 2006 post. For one, they are hiring non-agent pilots all the time. They are mostly posting pilot positions on Indeed from time to time and for various cities. It’s a GS11/12 position and you are flying almost everyday if the weather is VMC. There is a 6-8 week training class everyone takes for job specifics and then flight training is conducted in house with on-board instructors. If you are into law enforcement and flying, then it’s a great career. It not a point A to point B type of job. Its serving your country in the field offices AOR.
#19
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Joined APC: Jun 2011
Posts: 517
The FBI pilot program has evolved quite a bit from the 2006 post. For one, they are hiring non-agent pilots all the time. They are mostly posting pilot positions on Indeed from time to time and for various cities. It’s a GS11/12 position and you are flying almost everyday if the weather is VMC. There is a 6-8 week training class everyone takes for job specifics and then flight training is conducted in house with on-board instructors. If you are into law enforcement and flying, then it’s a great career. It not a point A to point B type of job. Its serving your country in the field offices AOR.
I saw what looked like an old posting for non-agent flying position out of New Jersey, but there were no flight hours or any other required experience listed on the posting.
#20
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Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 4
Should be on fbijobs.gov
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