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2StgTurbine 02-12-2015 12:42 PM
Originally Posted by DJPILOT (Post 1820610)
What is next ? 135 pilots bumping a 121 pilot that is trying to go work ???
Actually, at my company, yes. But we are trying to go to work too.

chongololo 02-12-2015 01:29 PM
Originally Posted by vilcas (Post 1824418)
If you don't work for the airlines you should not be extended the privilege of KCM. I also don't think KCM should be open to flight attendants.
wow... who died and made you God?

Stihlsaw 02-12-2015 01:44 PM
Originally Posted by vilcas (Post 1824418)
If you don't work for the airlines you should not be extended the privilege of KCM. I also don't think KCM should be open to flight attendants.
Got my badge today! I hope i get in line right ahead of you next time i commute. You will be able to recognize me, im the one not acting like God

cgtpilot 02-12-2015 03:05 PM
Originally Posted by Cyborgmudhen (Post 1824445)
Why ?
Be specific.
Because it's a union negotiated benefit.

Because ANYONE can become a FA in 4 weeks.

EMAW 02-12-2015 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by vilcas (Post 1824418)
If you don't work for the airlines you should not be extended the privilege of KCM. I also don't think KCM should be open to flight attendants.
You know that KCM was mostly if not all the work of ALPA, right? So if you aren't represented by ALPA, you shouldn't be allowed KCM privileges? I think that's a little short-sighted, but maybe that's just me.

cgtpilot 02-12-2015 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by EMAW (Post 1824660)
You know that KCM was mostly if not all the work of ALPA, right? So if you aren't represented by ALPA, you shouldn't be allowed KCM privileges? I think that's a little short-sighted, but maybe that's just me.
Great maybe I can come over to the FBO, swipe my airline badge, eat some free popcorn and shoot the bull with the CEO now?!?

Kritchlow 02-12-2015 07:50 PM
I am now a 121 guy, but was a 135 guy a few months ago. We were the first 135 company approved for KCM. I don't see the big deal.. KCM was not approved because the TSA bowed to ALPA, rather ALPA made TSA realize it is a worthy program. Obviously unless all background checks are passed you will not be eligible for the program.
There is just no reason to be up in arms about 135 guys using KCM. I think some 121 guys are just on an ego power trip.

2StgTurbine 02-12-2015 07:56 PM
Originally Posted by cgtpilot (Post 1824711)
Great maybe I can come over to the FBO, swipe my airline badge, eat some free popcorn and shoot the bull with the CEO now?!?
Have at it. Do you really think any one in an FBO cares what regulations you fly under?

cgtpilot 02-12-2015 08:04 PM
Originally Posted by Kritchlow (Post 1824735)
I am now a 121 guy, but was a 135 guy a few months ago. We were the first 135 company approved for KCM. I don't see the big deal.. KCM was not approved because the TSA bowed to ALPA, rather ALPA made TSA realize it is a worthy program. Obviously unless all background checks are passed you will not be eligible for the program.
There is just no reason to be up in arms about 135 guys using KCM. I think some 121 guys are just on an ego power trip.
Actually no power trip. Do you think it would be easier for a terrorist to get a job flying for a dirtbag 135 operator or flying a 121 airliner? So with KCM said pilot now has access to the sterile terminal with a weapon. Not a good idea and for the record I don't think airline FAs should have access either. In 4 weeks, anyone can become a cart donkey.

say again 02-12-2015 08:06 PM
Awww, the poor 121 guys are getting all butt hurt over this. Grow up, children!


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