Phoenix air group
06-27-2022 | 09:11 AM
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
It is a good promotional video.
What do you expect?
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I've worked with the military type Lear airplanes doing contract work for the DoD.
Usually not the entry level job I think - at least it wasn't for one of their competitors - L3 International. You need some military/large force exercise experience. Other stuff sounds like contract work. It isn't that 'no one else can do it', it is that no one else submits a bid or is the chosen bid.
Years ago - if you look at the past posts - there was an APC member on line who was working for them. Haven't heard from this person in quite some time it appears - so who knows what you can find out about them. Check the website would be the first stop.
What do you expect?
)I've worked with the military type Lear airplanes doing contract work for the DoD.
Usually not the entry level job I think - at least it wasn't for one of their competitors - L3 International. You need some military/large force exercise experience. Other stuff sounds like contract work. It isn't that 'no one else can do it', it is that no one else submits a bid or is the chosen bid.
Years ago - if you look at the past posts - there was an APC member on line who was working for them. Haven't heard from this person in quite some time it appears - so who knows what you can find out about them. Check the website would be the first stop.
06-27-2022 | 12:00 PM
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Couple friends have worked there recently. My buddy went in on the GIV as he was previously typed. Had lots of fun and saw lots of places and crazy stuff, but schedule was often long for the missions (30+ days with lots of sitting in that time), and pretty dynamic/unpredictable. It didn’t sound like they forced you to take the long stuff, but it also sounded like that was how you made money. Overall, he had fun but opted to go back to boilerplate 135 G flying. But indeed, some of their ops are as cool as they say.
Afaik, they do function on the lear side as a somewhat entry-level option—lots of medevac in addition to the mil stuff.
Afaik, they do function on the lear side as a somewhat entry-level option—lots of medevac in addition to the mil stuff.
06-29-2022 | 05:29 AM
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Couple friends have worked there recently. My buddy went in on the GIV as he was previously typed. Had lots of fun and saw lots of places and crazy stuff, but schedule was often long for the missions (30+ days with lots of sitting in that time), and pretty dynamic/unpredictable. It didn’t sound like they forced you to take the long stuff, but it also sounded like that was how you made money. Overall, he had fun but opted to go back to boilerplate 135 G flying. But indeed, some of their ops are as cool as they say.
Afaik, they do function on the lear side as a somewhat entry-level option—lots of medevac in addition to the mil stuff.
Afaik, they do function on the lear side as a somewhat entry-level option—lots of medevac in addition to the mil stuff.
06-29-2022 | 07:46 AM
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It was fairly complicated to me and could be a little out of date as this was over a year ago. My understanding was there was a min monthly pay rate of like 2500, and then there was a daily rate and an hourly flight pay. I think if your daily+hourly was over 2500 that's when it took over. I think his impression on the Gs was that FOs made from 50-100 annually but it was pretty variable, depending on how much work they accepted. I think they had some guys who were basically part-timers and made towards the bottom of that range. He said the lear figures were lower but didn't have much insight on it. Obviously, I'm not an expert and things could have changed quite a bit given the market as well.
06-29-2022 | 05:10 PM
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During my time there I made a little over 100k as a Gulfstream FO my first year. I believe there have been two pay rases since then. Min guarantee was a measely $2,400 a month. You always ended up making way more but it was stressful thinking that you could end up with that if things didn't go your way. I think that has gone up as well. The job is as adventurous as it sounds. Good crews both on the pilot and medical side and life on the road is good. Long trips and unpredictable schedules like the other poster mentioned is exactly right. In the end those two things got to me, the unpredictability in pay and schedule more so than the long trips. There have been some improvements to address that but I cannot speak to the exact details since the pay structure and scheduling is still overly complicated.
06-29-2022 | 06:29 PM
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The biggest knock against Phoenix is the schedule, it’s feast or famine but now you’ll earn a comfortable wage if you don’t fly a second.
No, pilots don’t wear hazmat suits and there is no risk of infection to the crews. Yes, the video is correct. Some of the things we do can’t be done by anyone else, not just because no one else bid.
08-25-2022 | 05:20 PM
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08-26-2022 | 02:12 PM
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I know this is an older thread, but I would love some updated information on Phoenix Air Group. I live local and am looking to retire soon from another job. Still too young to ‘retire’ for good and would love to speak with some one who can tell me more about the job. If you have any realtime info, please send me a PM. Thanks,
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