Caravan overwater regulations -Cuba
04-19-2016, 12:15 PM
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Caravan overwater regulations -Cuba
Hey guys,
Never flown a caravan, just currently King Airs. A competitor of ours out of PBI is mentioning flying a Caravan 135 Key West to Havana when things open up. Pax no cargo. I didn't think this would be possible due to 135 single engine rules.
Reason I ask is I have a possible opening to get into this competitor with a position in my first jet. However they will also qualify me in a caravan. Not too excited about that, especially of sketchy stuff bending 135 regs is happening. But hoping to get into my first slowtation...can anyone offer insight on the legality of this? Thanks!!
Never flown a caravan, just currently King Airs. A competitor of ours out of PBI is mentioning flying a Caravan 135 Key West to Havana when things open up. Pax no cargo. I didn't think this would be possible due to 135 single engine rules.
Reason I ask is I have a possible opening to get into this competitor with a position in my first jet. However they will also qualify me in a caravan. Not too excited about that, especially of sketchy stuff bending 135 regs is happening. But hoping to get into my first slowtation...can anyone offer insight on the legality of this? Thanks!!
04-28-2016, 06:49 PM
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25 miles off shore is about as far as you wanna go with people on board before you have oxygen on board... anything more than that, well. Thank god the PT-6 is one of the most reliable motors out there, or we'd hear about a lot more planes going in the ocean apparently...
09-08-2016, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by I miss my dog
135.167 covers extended overwater requirements (beyond 50nm from a shoreline). Just have to carry raft and survival equipment and train on it.
A contact in the South Florida FSDO told me they are looking very closely at FLL operators who are flying the Van to the Bahamas. They are not happy about it. Their definition of "gliding distance" seems to be even more than the 14:1 ratio that Cessna claims. When they accept "cross DEKAL at 4,000" they are definitely swimming home if the engine quits.
09-08-2016, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Navajo31
Wrong. You need to be able to reach the nearest shoreline with an engine inoperative. When you only have one engine, well.....it's gliding distance. (PAR 135.183)
A contact in the South Florida FSDO told me they are looking very closely at FLL operators who are flying the Van to the Bahamas. They are not happy about it. Their definition of "gliding distance" seems to be even more than the 14:1 ratio that Cessna claims. When they accept "cross DEKAL at 4,000" they are definitely swimming home if the engine quits.
A contact in the South Florida FSDO told me they are looking very closely at FLL operators who are flying the Van to the Bahamas. They are not happy about it. Their definition of "gliding distance" seems to be even more than the 14:1 ratio that Cessna claims. When they accept "cross DEKAL at 4,000" they are definitely swimming home if the engine quits.
09-09-2016, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Navajo31
Wrong. You need to be able to reach the nearest shoreline with an engine inoperative. When you only have one engine, well.....it's gliding distance. (PAR 135.183)
A contact in the South Florida FSDO told me they are looking very closely at FLL operators who are flying the Van to the Bahamas. They are not happy about it. Their definition of "gliding distance" seems to be even more than the 14:1 ratio that Cessna claims. When they accept "cross DEKAL at 4,000" they are definitely swimming home if the engine quits.
A contact in the South Florida FSDO told me they are looking very closely at FLL operators who are flying the Van to the Bahamas. They are not happy about it. Their definition of "gliding distance" seems to be even more than the 14:1 ratio that Cessna claims. When they accept "cross DEKAL at 4,000" they are definitely swimming home if the engine quits.
On another note, I heard the PT-6A is being used to generate electricity in certain undeveloped regions and for oil drilling platforms. Apparently the engine can run perfectly for years without a fraction of the maintenance required by FARs.
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