Any info on Gama/WheelsUp?
11-30-2016 | 05:38 AM
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2,500 total time, 1,000 PIC, 1,000 Multi Engine, 500 Turbine.
Whoever told you that hour builders are coming here instead of flight instructing is jerking your gherkin!
12-01-2016 | 12:26 AM
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I promise I'm not trolling, and do not mean this as inflammatory, but I have always found the FO mins interesting... In reading a few other posts about "kissing the ring", lack of seniority list, 81k for CAs, etc. What makes someone sit right seat in a King Air with way more experience than required to sit right seat in an RJ - especially, at the moment at least, with the future 121 hiring outlook? I guess I can see more varied flying, etc, but at the end of the day most flying jobs become a bit monotonous - trading a terminal for an FBO. Respectfully asking out of pure curiosity, nothing more.
12-01-2016 | 07:30 AM
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I promise I'm not trolling, and do not mean this as inflammatory, but I have always found the FO mins interesting... In reading a few other posts about "kissing the ring", lack of seniority list, 81k for CAs, etc. What makes someone sit right seat in a King Air with way more experience than required to sit right seat in an RJ - especially, at the moment at least, with the future 121 hiring outlook? I guess I can see more varied flying, etc, but at the end of the day most flying jobs become a bit monotonous - trading a terminal for an FBO. Respectfully asking out of pure curiosity, nothing more.
I ran into one of their "standards captains" the other day in the FP room at an FBO and he was pushing hard for me to come work for them. I don't know if he would get a referral bonus or if they are super short on staffing, seemed like a nice guy though.
I actually posed this question to him, why sit right seat in a small turboprop if you could sit right seat in a jet, for similar pay? He went into their benefits package etc, but yea, seems like high mins considering the state of the industry.
In any case I wouldn't be interested in trading the left seat of a 200 at over $500/day for the right seat of a 350 for $60/year or whatever they are paying.
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12-01-2016 | 09:01 AM
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Part 135 companies generally have higher minimums because they need pilots who already know the basics of operating a turbine powered aircraft for revenue. Ideally, they want someone who has worked at another 135 or 121 company before.
12-01-2016 | 04:36 PM
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I find the F/O minimum requirements extremely high. It is far different flying than airline schedules though but none the less, I agree that with that amount of time I'd rather be flying right seat in a shiny new RJ.
They are a good operation though with some rough spots that will hopefully smooth out over time.
They are a good operation though with some rough spots that will hopefully smooth out over time.
12-01-2016 | 05:03 PM
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I ran into one of their "standards captains" the other day in the FP room at an FBO and he was pushing hard for me to come work for them. I don't know if he would get a referral bonus or if they are super short on staffing, seemed like a nice guy though.
I actually posed this question to him, why sit right seat in a small turboprop if you could sit right seat in a jet, for similar pay? He went into their benefits package etc, but yea, seems like high mins considering the state of the industry.
In any case I wouldn't be interested in trading the left seat of a 200 at over $500/day for the right seat of a 350 for $60/year or whatever they are paying.
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I actually posed this question to him, why sit right seat in a small turboprop if you could sit right seat in a jet, for similar pay? He went into their benefits package etc, but yea, seems like high mins considering the state of the industry.
In any case I wouldn't be interested in trading the left seat of a 200 at over $500/day for the right seat of a 350 for $60/year or whatever they are paying.
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Can you imagine someone actually wanting to fly a King Air rather than an RJ if the pay were the same?
12-01-2016 | 06:02 PM
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12-03-2016 | 06:46 AM
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I think WU/Gama is a great opportunity considering the growth. The planned growth in membership will require many more pilots. That said, with regionals like PSA, Envoy and Piedmont offering $60K to start in the right seat as well as a legacy airline flow, Gama's starting salary and benefits seem less compelling. 121 flying isn't for everyone, but it certainly is a lot more attractive these days if you can find a pilot base location that works.
Bottom line: if WU/Gama wants to attract and retain pilots, compensation will have to increase to achieve its own growth targets...
Bottom line: if WU/Gama wants to attract and retain pilots, compensation will have to increase to achieve its own growth targets...
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