Failed IRA checkride due to Va
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Failed IRA checkride due to Va
So failed my checkride because we exceeded Va (105 in a skyhawk) a couple times when intercepting ILS. We were around 115 which is below VNO. My question is was my DP just being a dick or was I wrong for not anticipating tailwind and adjusting power (reported surface winds were 15 g22) ? I thought as long as I wasnt doing maneuvers like stalls or whatever I could exceed VA.
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So failed my checkride because we exceeded Va (105 in a skyhawk) a couple times when intercepting ILS. We were around 115 which is below VNO. My question is was my DP just being a dick or was I wrong for not anticipating tailwind and adjusting power (reported surface winds were 15 g22) ? I thought as long as I wasnt doing maneuvers like stalls or whatever I could exceed VA.
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We weren't on Final. We weren't even on the approach. Were getting vectored to intercept the ILS. He mentioned it during the missed on the first approach and then when I didn't correct again on the seconded approach he just ended the check ride
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Yea I mean I should have corrected after he mentioned it. But I had ten other things going on I set power to cruise, and when I turn south east I forget to correct for a tailwind so you fail me? It doesn't seem fair. Didn't have anything to do with my approaches. Plus like I said maybe I'm not understanding Va, but I wasn't conscious of it cause I wasn't preforming any stalls or maneuvers.
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Something doesn’t add up here, flying the ILS has nothing to do with Va. Va, Vb Vc, Vd are all design speeds that take into account certain gusts, if it was extremely turbulent, it might be plausible that you should be less than Va, but that would a) be pretty damn turbulent and b) apply to any phase of flight, not just the ILS.
Ask the examiner what area of operation, task and skill you failed. Tell him you are having trouble figuring this out. Call the FSDO and ask to speak to the DPE manager and keep elevating this until it’s solved. You won’t get in trouble or anything for doing so.
This assumes you didn’t fail for failure to control airspeed as described in the task, but it should be understood that the ILS usually includes different speeds and configurations at different points. Usually competent schools and instructors have specific profiles to fly for approaches, giving the target speeds.
Ask the examiner what area of operation, task and skill you failed. Tell him you are having trouble figuring this out. Call the FSDO and ask to speak to the DPE manager and keep elevating this until it’s solved. You won’t get in trouble or anything for doing so.
This assumes you didn’t fail for failure to control airspeed as described in the task, but it should be understood that the ILS usually includes different speeds and configurations at different points. Usually competent schools and instructors have specific profiles to fly for approaches, giving the target speeds.
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Something doesn’t add up here, flying the ILS has nothing to do with Va. Va, Vb Vc, Vd are all design speeds that take into account certain gusts, if it was extremely turbulent, it might be plausible that you should be less than Va, but that would a) be pretty damn turbulent and b) apply to any phase of flight, not just the ILS.
Ask the examiner what area of operation, task and skill you failed. Tell him you are having trouble figuring this out. Call the FSDO and ask to speak to the DPE manager and keep elevating this until it’s solved. You won’t get in trouble or anything for doing so.
This assumes you didn’t fail for failure to control airspeed as described in the task, but it should be understood that the ILS usually includes different speeds and configurations at different points. Usually competent schools and instructors have specific profiles to fly for approaches, giving the target speeds.
Ask the examiner what area of operation, task and skill you failed. Tell him you are having trouble figuring this out. Call the FSDO and ask to speak to the DPE manager and keep elevating this until it’s solved. You won’t get in trouble or anything for doing so.
This assumes you didn’t fail for failure to control airspeed as described in the task, but it should be understood that the ILS usually includes different speeds and configurations at different points. Usually competent schools and instructors have specific profiles to fly for approaches, giving the target speeds.
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I sure hope you aren't supposed to "only fly below Va" on an approach, because I've flown into many a class B in a light GA airplane and kept the speed up to keep the traffic flowing...
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