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flyinfinn86 08-18-2010 06:07 PM

Companies hiring pilots with 500 TT
 
I'm a commercial pilot ASEL/AMEL, instrument rated,CFI, and MEI. I have 500TT, 167 Multi, 79 Instrument, and a Bachelor's Degree. I have been applying everywhere and cannot find a hit. I'm highly considering getting the CFII, yet money is tight. Does anyone know of any company (whether it is banner towing, mapping, or even flight instructing) that would be willing to hire someone with my experience. I am willing to take anything to build my hours. Seems like most places want 1000 hrs TT and pt. 61 schools want someone with 1000 hrs of dual given for instruction. Any help or clues would be greatly appreciated.

HercDriver130 08-18-2010 06:25 PM

northern states is looking for mapping pilots for their 172s.... about the only thing I have seen with that sorta time.

flyinfinn86 08-18-2010 06:44 PM

ya i applied there the other night.waiting to hear back.

konstantin 08-18-2010 09:51 PM

Look into a job flying skydivers.. I was in the same boat as you, with 540 total time, and now im logging around 30-40hrs a week..

Grumble 08-19-2010 08:15 AM

Tried the military? Best pay/benefits/flying out there.

plane4 08-19-2010 09:56 AM

Why wouldn’t you already have you CFII?? What if someone wants to do some instrument work... Can you afford to miss an opportunity?

mshunter 08-19-2010 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by flyinfinn86 (Post 857709)
I'm a commercial pilot ASEL/AMEL, instrument rated,CFI, and MEI. I have 500TT, 167 Multi, 79 Instrument, and a Bachelor's Degree. I have been applying everywhere and cannot find a hit. I'm highly considering getting the CFII, yet money is tight. Does anyone know of any company (whether it is banner towing, mapping, or even flight instructing) that would be willing to hire someone with my experience. I am willing to take anything to build my hours. Seems like most places want 1000 hrs TT and pt. 61 schools want someone with 1000 hrs of dual given for instruction. Any help or clues would be greatly appreciated.


Don't just apply. Companies are getting thousands of applications right now they have to sift through. Put a face/voice with a resume. Make a personal contact.

EAndres1486 08-19-2010 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 857956)
Tried the military? Best pay/benefits/flying out there.

Yes the Pay and benefits are decent, If you consider Tricare and Vitamin M a good medical plan. Granted those on flying status do get better treatment than those of us who arent.

As many have said around the forums the Military is not a place to go to build time for a potential airline career. You will be a military officer and leader first, pilot second, family man after (if you have a family).

I have the privleage of working with many different pilots of all sorts of airframes. The economy is hitting us in the military as well. Heavy pilots are being beaten down, used and abused so to speak with no real relief insight. The aicraft are feeling it too. About the only airframes on the active duty side that arent beaten down are some of the fighters. I cant speak for the guard/reserves. Might be another option there

There are Pro's and Con's to each avenue. I can give reasons all day why the military should not be an option. But being in the military I have also had oppurtunities to see certain things first hand. Grass is always greener.

Keep your options open and enjoy whatever path you choose. Dont live life with regrets. Just make sure you do you homework no matter what option you pick

flyinfinn86 08-27-2010 07:19 AM

do you know any sky diving outfits that are currently looking...........thanks for the help.

Laxrox43 08-27-2010 10:42 AM

flyinfinn866,

I would recommend that you invest the time and money into getting your CFI/CFII/MEI. I feel that you will benifit from these ratings now, and down the road (provided you keep it current). You will learn a lot about yourself, human psychology, and most importantly help you to truely master your craft. That's just my 2 cents.

By the way, where are you from? Perhaps it would be easier to give you suggestions if we knew your geographic location.

Good luck,
Laxrox43

auflyer06 08-27-2010 11:01 AM

Just my .02 but I would leave flying skydivers as the very last resort in your arsenal for building time. Most DZs could care less about you as a pilot. Speaking from experience here. Anyway, good luck and I would say get you CFII and MEI. Best time out there if you can get it.

Grumble 08-27-2010 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by EAndres1486 (Post 858140)
Yes the Pay and benefits are decent, If you consider Tricare and Vitamin M a good medical plan. Granted those on flying status do get better treatment than those of us who arent.

As many have said around the forums the Military is not a place to go to build time for a potential airline career. You will be a military officer and leader first, pilot second, family man after (if you have a family).

I have the privleage of working with many different pilots of all sorts of airframes. The economy is hitting us in the military as well. Heavy pilots are being beaten down, used and abused so to speak with no real relief insight. The aicraft are feeling it too. About the only airframes on the active duty side that arent beaten down are some of the fighters. I cant speak for the guard/reserves. Might be another option there

There are Pro's and Con's to each avenue. I can give reasons all day why the military should not be an option. But being in the military I have also had oppurtunities to see certain things first hand. Grass is always greener.

Keep your options open and enjoy whatever path you choose. Dont live life with regrets. Just make sure you do you homework no matter what option you pick

I was speaking first hand from a single seat fighter POV...

As for Tricare, they haven't disappointed yet. Emergency room visits, surgery's, wifes care, etc. In 10 years I haven't spent a dime.

flyinfinn86 09-15-2010 10:06 AM

I currently reside in Green Lake, WI which is an hour or so NNE of Madison. However, I am willing to relocate for any job where I can build some hours.

brian434 10-12-2010 11:55 AM

Be careful about moving for a job. A lot of operators say they are growing by leaps and bounds. Most are having trouble paying the bills. I recently got shorted a months pay by one. I ended up with another job that paid better just because of dumb luck. That is the only reason I am still able to pay the bills. Network where you are. The cost is a lot lower and you know the area. I use to study at the airport and shake hands with anyone that walked in the door. That resulted in some PA32R301 time and SR22 that I wouldn't have had any other way. It also got me a couple instrument and commercial students.

mshunter 10-12-2010 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by flyinfinn86 (Post 857738)
ya i applied there the other night.waiting to hear back.


If you do that, you'll never get hired. Call them, persue them. Make it know you want to work there.

VanDriver208 10-24-2010 07:14 PM

I noticed a job posting on Climbto350 the other day for Pacific Wings hiring FOs in Caravans with 300-1100 hours. I have heard less than great things about that company, but I guess if you need to build hours you have to pay your dues. The job description sounds like in addition to the SIC you are also a ramper, agent, fueler, baggage loader, etc... Just thought I would put it out there for people who are looking for a job.

jcrews 10-25-2010 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by VanDriver208 (Post 889852)
I noticed a job posting on Climbto350 the other day for Pacific Wings hiring FOs in Caravans with 300-1100 hours. I have heard less than great things about that company, but I guess if you need to build hours you have to pay your dues. The job description sounds like in addition to the SIC you are also a ramper, agent, fueler, baggage loader, etc... Just thought I would put it out there for people who are looking for a job.

Do you have any contact info for submitting resumes?

Dark Knight 10-25-2010 06:53 PM

be careful, i had a buddies that worked there
AT WILL EMPLOYER they can fire you "just cuz"

Cubdriver 10-26-2010 06:31 AM

Pacific Wings and Georgia Skies are run by the same outfit and they are both known for their poor treatment of pilots. At least a year ago when the last round of complaints was made, and there have been several, they seemed to have the attitude that pilots are expendable. Those threads can be located using the search window at the upper left.

thread 1

thread 2

AKASHA 10-26-2010 08:42 AM

Most companies want a higher level of experience but try the regionals.

cubbies4life 10-27-2010 02:48 AM

air cargo carriers is hiring and you meet their mins. They;re based out of Milwaukee

Cruz5350 10-27-2010 07:39 AM

They want 2500TT

jsfBoat 11-15-2010 08:20 AM

I applied for the Pacific Wings job in that job site. They listed "NO Calls" on the ad, but should I call them anyways? It's been 2 weeks since I applied.

Cruz5350 11-15-2010 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by jsfBoat (Post 901426)
I applied for the Pacific Wings job in that job site. They listed "NO Calls" on the ad, but should I call them anyways? It's been 2 weeks since I applied.

Do a search on here for PW. You may want to stay away.

snippercr 11-15-2010 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 891302)
They want 2500TT

Not sure if you were referring to ACC or PW.

If you are referring to ACC, they are hiring with <500 hours. Friend of mine is in training now and got on with around 480/45, but with an strong internal rec.

lakehouse 11-15-2010 05:30 PM

I got 1100 ttl, 52 me, anyone have any idea how to get in? Anyone want to give me an internal rec :).

Cruz5350 11-16-2010 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 901694)
Not sure if you were referring to ACC or PW.

If you are referring to ACC, they are hiring with <500 hours. Friend of mine is in training now and got on with around 480/45, but with an strong internal rec.

Must have been a darn strong internal rec. At any rate they pulled the ad down already.

snippercr 11-16-2010 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 902147)
Must have been a darn strong internal rec. At any rate they pulled the ad down already.

true, I probably shouldn't have said "Hiring" but they did hire my one friend. Getting based in San Francisco. Other major contender was puerto rico.

SD3FR8DOG 11-19-2010 08:13 AM


Must have been a darn strong internal rec. At any rate they pulled the ad down already.
Any kind of smaller company is going to be the same, they'll talk to someone a pilot here can pre-qualify. ACC require some kind of multi time, 100 or over is good with 50hrs about a minimum. Total time around 500 or better.

scudrun 11-22-2010 09:25 PM

Any idea if Northern States still hires this late in the season and if they are 100% firm on 500TT?

captainprop 11-27-2010 12:47 AM

November 23, 2010
CONFIDENTIAL (Cessna 210 Pilot - Central Texas)

San Antonia - Texas

Regional client advisory group seeks full-time pilot for Cessna 210.
Min qualifications - 500 tot time, 100 instrument, 25 hrs in any 210-series aircraft. Commercial + instrument.

Willing to live in central Texas. Fly with 12hrs notice.

Does not sound like a bad first job to me. You need to sign up for website though to be able to apply... PM for website info.

Good luck!

flyinfinn86 12-10-2010 09:42 PM

I'd like to hear more about the c210 gig in tx...

blade120 01-11-2011 05:52 PM

elevator driver
 
most elevator operators require time in type most likely 182 time i think they require 80 hrs. Figure out a way to get it, may be ride along on empty drops in exchange for answering phones.

lakehouse 01-11-2011 06:20 PM

you have wayyy toooo many posts for one night dude. Whats going on?


Originally Posted by blade120 (Post 928608)
most elevator operators require time in type most likely 182 time i think they require 80 hrs. Figure out a way to get it, may be ride along on empty drops in exchange for answering phones.


snippercr 01-11-2011 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 928629)
you have wayyy toooo many posts for one night dude. Whats going on?

Haha, I am glad someone else noticed it. I go away for something, come back and see 10 updated threads by blade. 9:07, 9:08, 9:11, 9:17. Someone really wants the ability to use PMs :)

lakehouse 01-11-2011 06:54 PM

its nuts, maybe mad at the industry?


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 928638)
Haha, I am glad someone else noticed it. I go away for something, come back and see 10 updated threads by blade. 9:07, 9:08, 9:11, 9:17. Someone really wants the ability to use PMs :)


snippercr 01-11-2011 07:05 PM

::into loud speaker::

Dude! Step away from the keyboard! You do not want to do this!

Seriously, I am not trying to flame bait(serious!) but your posts went from slightly informative (But just repeating what others said) to just going "Me too!"

Welcome to the boards and all, I know it's great to get some fresh blood, but chillllllll

Cubdriver 01-11-2011 07:14 PM

I do not know the exact list of criteria but post count is only one of several used to determine when the PM function kicks in. Best thing is to participate normally (and responsibly) and not worry about getting PMs. Every so many weeks someone new joins and wants to beat the system, but all they really do is get blue in the face. It takes several days.

RJMFlyboi 01-24-2011 04:40 PM

Hey guys,

I actually live in Central Texas (Ft. Worth) have about 550TT with about 270ish ME. I'm looking for a job flying, however I'm also debating getting my instructors' licenses. I was thinking possibly ATP, however as most of us starting out, money is incredibly tight.

I would love some feed back and help!

Thanks!

R

gtech88 01-28-2011 09:16 AM

Get the CFI. You need more time for the ATP. You'll thank yourself when that first furlough notice arrives.


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