Part 91 or 135?
10-12-2011 | 11:56 PM
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Part 91 or 135?
What do you think this qualifies as?
I want to help the local community of Kalaupapa with basic transportation. They live on the Island of Moloka'i, Hawaii. Their only options for transportation are to trek, by foot or mule, 3,000 foot cliffs and hike 7 miles to the nearest town. There are flights available, but they're either expensive or on the operators schedule.
So, I propose that I put most of my money that I earn towards operating a 172 to fly them in and out of Kalaupapa, or where ever they please. Every flight would be for free, so their would be no compensation or hire. Would this qualify as providing a service?
Also, if I wanted to start a ministry(non-profit) to fund my flying expenses, would that qualify as a 135?
I just want to help the people with minimal paper work.
I want to help the local community of Kalaupapa with basic transportation. They live on the Island of Moloka'i, Hawaii. Their only options for transportation are to trek, by foot or mule, 3,000 foot cliffs and hike 7 miles to the nearest town. There are flights available, but they're either expensive or on the operators schedule.
So, I propose that I put most of my money that I earn towards operating a 172 to fly them in and out of Kalaupapa, or where ever they please. Every flight would be for free, so their would be no compensation or hire. Would this qualify as providing a service?
Also, if I wanted to start a ministry(non-profit) to fund my flying expenses, would that qualify as a 135?
I just want to help the people with minimal paper work.
Last edited by troybird6; 10-13-2011 at 09:01 AM. Reason: Switched some theirs..
10-13-2011 | 02:23 AM
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10-13-2011 | 03:14 AM
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What do you think this qualifies as?
... I propose that I put most of my money that I earn towards operating a 172 to fly them in and out of ...whereever they please. Every flight would be for free, so their would be no compensation or hire. Would this qualify as providing a service?...Also, if I wanted to start a ministry(non-profit) to fund [it], would that qualify as 135?
... I propose that I put most of my money that I earn towards operating a 172 to fly them in and out of ...whereever they please. Every flight would be for free, so their would be no compensation or hire. Would this qualify as providing a service?...Also, if I wanted to start a ministry(non-profit) to fund [it], would that qualify as 135?
Last edited by Cubdriver; 10-13-2011 at 05:20 AM. Reason: added specific FAR reference
10-13-2011 | 05:49 AM
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What are there, a dozen patients left there?
All the charity rules seem to apply to sellings rides to raise money. There's Angel Flight and a handful of other groups like them, almost all of them provide transport for medical treatments. They might be able to give you some guidance. As pointed out, if there is any sort of quid pro quo, it's air taxi under 135.
All the charity rules seem to apply to sellings rides to raise money. There's Angel Flight and a handful of other groups like them, almost all of them provide transport for medical treatments. They might be able to give you some guidance. As pointed out, if there is any sort of quid pro quo, it's air taxi under 135.
11-03-2011 | 10:20 AM
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No money changing hands? It's part 91, even if you do it on their schedule. In some cases they could pay for half the fuel and it would still be legal, but watch out there, especially if the pax are calling the shots as to where and when.
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