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07-16-2012, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bcrosier
I'll second that. I can think of several people I went through college with (in the aviation program) who gave up due to the lack of pretty much ANY flying job.
I can think of a number more who would have loved to know where all of these mythical "1980's students" were, because they certainly weren't at the airports they were CFI'ing at. It seems to me that the last decade or so has had an abundance of zero-to-hero and ab-initio programs compared to what there were in the 1980's (again, just my impression, but I was there then).
I can think of a number more who would have loved to know where all of these mythical "1980's students" were, because they certainly weren't at the airports they were CFI'ing at. It seems to me that the last decade or so has had an abundance of zero-to-hero and ab-initio programs compared to what there were in the 1980's (again, just my impression, but I was there then).
07-16-2012, 09:39 PM
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Again, I guess I'm just taking for granted that back in the 80's, MANY CFI's were working two jobs (or starving) because there weren't enough students. My surprise is that anyone is surprised that it's had to make it on CFI'ing alone - welcome to aviation (and at least partially SkyHigh has opted out).
07-17-2012, 04:47 AM
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I think its because up until about a year ago... most places were really busy. It just seems to have died off in the past year. Most of my instructors were getting around 100 hours per month because of a local college contract and foreign students. Now that both of those have dried up, no students.
07-17-2012, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by freightdawg
Ummm, I beg to differ. Did positions exist to instruct that much? Sure, a very few at 141 schools, who were far fewer then. A more typical number would have been 20-60 hours a month, depending on season and location.
Was is so much easier then? Hard to say - my knee jerk reaction is that we've recently seen a period where it was incredibly easy to get into, and survive, this career. I seem to remember a lot of my peers giving up on flying because there were no good jobs available.
Just saying - don't put on the rose colored glasses
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Was is so much easier then? Hard to say - my knee jerk reaction is that we've recently seen a period where it was incredibly easy to get into, and survive, this career. I seem to remember a lot of my peers giving up on flying because there were no good jobs available.
Just saying - don't put on the rose colored glasses
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07-17-2012, 09:38 AM
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I got my CFI in July of 1980. In a bit over two years I logged ~475 dual given. Around 18 hours a month. For the first year I was still working for UTA as a TA. When I got to 135 VFR mins the FBO would use me on some single engine Fotomat runs and UPS feeder flights if the weather was good. Made it to the right seat of the DC-3s they used for UPS and Tigers and never looked back.
07-29-2012, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawker Driver
Back in the 80's, it was easy to instruct 100 hours a month. Now, you are lucky if you fly more than 30.
07-29-2012, 06:38 PM
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Dynamic Aviation of Bridgewater, VA
Not just high-pay overseas DOD stuff....
MANY low time pilots hired over the years for many & sundry contracts all over.
A&P or even mechanical aptitude/interest helps....ALL TURBINE
Also: tow gliders AND get a glider rating. Sometimes a tow-day per month covers your dues. Many clubs don't charge per hour for the glider.....the longer you stay up the cheaper the flight becomes .......and ALL glider time counts for the ATP 1500 TT requirement.
Soaring Society of America, the source for Gliding in the USA
Not just high-pay overseas DOD stuff....
MANY low time pilots hired over the years for many & sundry contracts all over.
A&P or even mechanical aptitude/interest helps....ALL TURBINE
Also: tow gliders AND get a glider rating. Sometimes a tow-day per month covers your dues. Many clubs don't charge per hour for the glider.....the longer you stay up the cheaper the flight becomes .......and ALL glider time counts for the ATP 1500 TT requirement.
Soaring Society of America, the source for Gliding in the USA
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