Heli time count toward Total and vice versa?
08-27-2013, 04:01 PM
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Heli time count toward Total and vice versa?
Say I have 150 hours fixed wing and 151 helicopter (which is pretty close to my current situation). Commercial's complete.
If a jump plane job or glider tow job opens up asking for 300 hours am I qualified? Or are they saying "we want to see that 300 hours in an airplane"?
If a jump plane job or glider tow job opens up asking for 300 hours am I qualified? Or are they saying "we want to see that 300 hours in an airplane"?
08-27-2013, 04:43 PM
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I have dealt with this infuriating dual rated dance for ~20 years and had to deal with the biases with both sectors (FW&RW) of aviation. The ignorant parts of both sectors have historically disregarded the worth of a category they don't understand/know. The bottom line is that it depends on; the bosses knowledge of aviation, your ability to sell your skills and airmanship, and of course- the insurance company.
My favorite story is applying for a FW CFII/MEI job and having a Part 61 flight school manager looking at my ~2300 hour (1700 RW/600 FW) resume and repeatedly tell me I only had 600 hours... BTW,~1400 of the RW time was in a AH-64A....1/3 was -64 IP time but this guy was dead set on disregarding all of it. really?? I'd taught PVT/Comm/Inst in airplanes before flying RW and I'd taught in the -64. I knew how to teach...grr still amazes me! I passed on the offer of $14/hr when others were paying $20/hr. Oh well, things worked out better for me.
Your best bet is to go talk to the owner and sell yourself. Heck, I'd offer a ride in the 300CBi/R-22 to the boss/owner. I love showing the better side of life to starchwing folks.
Oh yeah, get the CFI ASEL/AMEL/RH!!! It's worth it, not just financially.
My favorite story is applying for a FW CFII/MEI job and having a Part 61 flight school manager looking at my ~2300 hour (1700 RW/600 FW) resume and repeatedly tell me I only had 600 hours... BTW,~1400 of the RW time was in a AH-64A....1/3 was -64 IP time but this guy was dead set on disregarding all of it. really?? I'd taught PVT/Comm/Inst in airplanes before flying RW and I'd taught in the -64. I knew how to teach...grr still amazes me! I passed on the offer of $14/hr when others were paying $20/hr. Oh well, things worked out better for me.
Your best bet is to go talk to the owner and sell yourself. Heck, I'd offer a ride in the 300CBi/R-22 to the boss/owner. I love showing the better side of life to starchwing folks.
Oh yeah, get the CFI ASEL/AMEL/RH!!! It's worth it, not just financially.
08-27-2013, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hobbit64
I have dealt with this infuriating dual rated dance for ~20 years and had to deal with the biases with both sectors (FW&RW) of aviation. The ignorant parts of both sectors have historically disregarded the worth of a category they don't understand/know. The bottom line is that it depends on; the bosses knowledge of aviation, your ability to sell your skills and airmanship, and of course- the insurance company.
My favorite story is applying for a FW CFII/MEI job and having a Part 61 flight school manager looking at my ~2300 hour (1700 RW/600 FW) resume and repeatedly tell me I only had 600 hours... BTW,~1400 of the RW time was in a AH-64A....1/3 was -64 IP time but this guy was dead set on disregarding all of it. really?? I'd taught PVT/Comm/Inst in airplanes before flying RW and I'd taught in the -64. I knew how to teach...grr still amazes me! I passed on the offer of $14/hr when others were paying $20/hr. Oh well, things worked out better for me.
Your best bet is to go talk to the owner and sell yourself. Heck, I'd offer a ride in the 300CBi/R-22 to the boss/owner. I love showing the better side of life to starchwing folks.
Oh yeah, get the CFI ASEL/AMEL/RH!!! It's worth it, not just financially.
My favorite story is applying for a FW CFII/MEI job and having a Part 61 flight school manager looking at my ~2300 hour (1700 RW/600 FW) resume and repeatedly tell me I only had 600 hours... BTW,~1400 of the RW time was in a AH-64A....1/3 was -64 IP time but this guy was dead set on disregarding all of it. really?? I'd taught PVT/Comm/Inst in airplanes before flying RW and I'd taught in the -64. I knew how to teach...grr still amazes me! I passed on the offer of $14/hr when others were paying $20/hr. Oh well, things worked out better for me.
Your best bet is to go talk to the owner and sell yourself. Heck, I'd offer a ride in the 300CBi/R-22 to the boss/owner. I love showing the better side of life to starchwing folks.
Oh yeah, get the CFI ASEL/AMEL/RH!!! It's worth it, not just financially.
Train me how to fly an AH-64, please.
Thanks,
Martin
08-27-2013, 06:49 PM
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I was in a similar spot with fixed wing and LTA-Airship. 400 or so fixed wing and 1300 LTA time. I went the 135 route and thankfully, 135 minimums don't specify that the total time has to be fixed wing, just time.
08-28-2013, 07:48 PM
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It really depends on the company, and what their insurance requires. It all legally counts as time. From my experience, a lot of jump plane places wanted X amount of high performance, or 20-30 hours of time in type, etc. And a lot of glider towing places require a fair amount of tail wheel time, 25 hours seems common. If you can meet those 'odd' requirements, they probably won't care that you have a bunch of time in helicopters.
There were two nearby skydiving places I was trying to get work at, and one required 30 hours of 182 time, and the other 25 hours of 206 time. Once I finally crossed the 1000 TT threshold they were finally willing to waive those requirements.
There were two nearby skydiving places I was trying to get work at, and one required 30 hours of 182 time, and the other 25 hours of 206 time. Once I finally crossed the 1000 TT threshold they were finally willing to waive those requirements.
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