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BMEP100 02-24-2017 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingFox (Post 2288439)
Hello, I'm an international student in salt lake city area and I cannot get employed before graduation due to regulations... I want to at least keep my currency during my stay in Utah until the end of the year so I'm willing to fly just to kill downtime. PM me for further please.

Specs: 400TT 50ME 80IFR + CPL ASEL AMEL + CFI

BE33, C150, C152, C172, C72R, DV20, P28A, P28R, PA23, PA30, PA44

Thank you.

Just ignore the haters on this board and try this.

Find an active CAP squadron and offer to teach ground school - for free. That will help you keep the regs, procedural side from getting rusty.

Visit the local FBO's. Introduce yourself around and bring resumes. Explain that you are looking to build time and are willing to sit right seat in anything.

There is most likely some small charter operator doing single pilot that would be glad for the help and the company.

Post an ad on Barnstormers.com and offer to ferry airplanes for expenses, or sit right seat in any part 91 ops.

Good luck, and welcome to the greatest profession.

Aviationluver 02-24-2017 05:10 PM

PM me. I am looking for low time pilots and CFIs.

JohnBurke 02-24-2017 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 2308208)

There is most likely some small charter operator doing single pilot that would be glad for the help and the company.

Ride along on single pilot 135 operations...to what end?

DarkSideMoon 02-25-2017 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 2308208)
Just ignore the haters on this board and try this.

Find an active CAP squadron and offer to teach ground school - for free. That will help you keep the regs, procedural side from getting rusty.

Visit the local FBO's. Introduce yourself around and bring resumes. Explain that you are looking to build time and are willing to sit right seat in anything.

There is most likely some small charter operator doing single pilot that would be glad for the help and the company.

Post an ad on Barnstormers.com and offer to ferry airplanes for expenses, or sit right seat in any part 91 ops.

Good luck, and welcome to the greatest profession.

Ferrying airplanes, even for expenses, is commericial. The FAA views free flight time as compensation.

Javichu 02-25-2017 09:48 PM

So following the rules mean being a hater. Awesome

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JohnBurke 02-25-2017 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2309051)
Ferrying airplanes, even for expenses, is commericial. The FAA views free flight time as compensation.

The Administrator views the logging of flight time as compensation, as provided numerous times in Chief Legal Counsel letters of interpretation.

Flight time is not compensation. The logging of it, as a tangible item of value, is compensation.

DarkSideMoon 02-26-2017 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2309066)
The Administrator views the logging of flight time as compensation, as provided numerous times in Chief Legal Counsel letters of interpretation.

Flight time is not compensation. The logging of it, as a tangible item of value, is compensation.

Doing commercial work for free, even if you don't log the time, is still scummy even if it is legal. Private pilots shouldn't be doing ferry flights. I'd be curious to see if this specific scenario has ever come up and if it did if the FAA A wouldn't still bust the guy.

I agree on some of the other points, if he wants to stay fresh and sit right seat on single pilot aircraft I don't see a problem.

JohnBurke 02-26-2017 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2309163)
Doing commercial work for free, even if you don't log the time, is still scummy even if it is legal. Private pilots shouldn't be doing ferry flights. I'd be curious to see if this specific scenario has ever come up and if it did if the FAA A wouldn't still bust the guy.

I agree on some of the other points, if he wants to stay fresh and sit right seat on single pilot aircraft I don't see a problem.

You think that the FAA cares if a commercial pilot works without pay? You think there's a regulation citing what a pilot is required to be paid for his services? You realize that the original poster is a commercial pilot?

DarkSideMoon 02-26-2017 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2309247)
You think that the FAA cares if a commercial pilot works without pay? You think there's a regulation citing what a pilot is required to be paid for his services? You realize that the original poster is a commercial pilot?

Oops, got my threads mixed up. Nothing wrong in the eyes of the FAA then. Still scummy/Scabby to be taking work that should be paid (Ferrying) for free.

TiredSoul 02-26-2017 12:05 PM

There are Internationally operating ferry compagnies that you can legally work for as they are based ( and pay) outside of the United States.

You may have to do the first couple of trips unpaid with an experienced pilot as taking a SE airplane across the world is not for the faint of heart or the uninitiated.


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