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Old 01-22-2022, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO View Post
Air Wisconsin will be out of business in 12 months since United didn’t renew their contract. If y’all survive by then, you’ll get more applications. But for now the Company needs to get a new pilot contract on the table ASAP or they need to be planning their golden parachutes to leave quickly.
Hopefulky the majority of Air Whiskey pilots can move up to a Legacy/LCC/ULCC instead of laterally to another regional. Imagine anyone sub-500 hrs 121 time might have to make that kind of move for a while.
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Old 01-22-2022, 02:46 PM
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There is no way that you’ll flow in 4 years, my guesstimate would be 7+ years. As far as I know, no one has ever flowed in 4 years, even back when the monthly new hire class sizes were roughly equal to the monthly flows. As it is, we’re flowing 6/mos and hiring ~5 times that per month. That being said, flow agreements trade certainty for time. With a flow, you’re guaranteed to get there but they generally won’t hire you before the flow so that they can avoid competing with their own regional. Sounds like you are on the right track to getting to Delta quickly but I’d recommend PSA so that once you’re senior on the seniority list you have the schedule to match. At Piedmont there isn’t a whole lot of difference between a new guy schedule and an old guy schedule.


Originally Posted by AerChungus View Post
I just interviewed and got an offer to join the cadet program. I thought I would read into the latest and greatest at Piedmont here, and I have to say, I'm pretty surprised. The recruiter said that the flow for new hires is 4 years from DOH. Ideally I would love to fly for Delta and I figured that Piedmont would be a good fit to get TPIC fairly quickly and try for DL for a few years with American as a backup. Endeavor was my dream regional but they did a screening call and gave a TBNT. I'm a little under 650 from mins and figure I'll hit them in December (potentially the reason for the 9E TBNT).
From what I've read here, it sounds like I would be crazy not only to fly for PDT, but to sign a binding contract committing for 10 months on top of that that I won't try to fly for anybody else. Am I off the mark here?
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Old 01-23-2022, 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AerChungus View Post
I just interviewed and got an offer to join the cadet program. I thought I would read into the latest and greatest at Piedmont here, and I have to say, I'm pretty surprised. The recruiter said that the flow for new hires is 4 years from DOH. Ideally I would love to fly for Delta and I figured that Piedmont would be a good fit to get TPIC fairly quickly and try for DL for a few years with American as a backup. Endeavor was my dream regional but they did a screening call and gave a TBNT. I'm a little under 650 from mins and figure I'll hit them in December (potentially the reason for the 9E TBNT).
From what I've read here, it sounds like I would be crazy not only to fly for PDT, but to sign a binding contract committing for 10 months on top of that that I won't try to fly for anybody else. Am I off the mark here?
The landscape will be much different by the time you’re at mins. I would focus on what you’re doing now, keeping an eye on how things develop. And yes, the recruiter is full of crap. Used to laugh at them touting a 5-year flow; guess their answer was to change the party line to 4. There were, in fact, a small # of sub 5-year flows at PDT, but that train left the station years ago. It’s been a while, but if memory serves, those hires were ‘14-‘15ish maybe. This industry is heavy on the luck in timing aspect. By the time you know something is a good deal, if you’re not already part of it, you’ve probably missed the peak benefit. Best of luck.
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Old 01-24-2022, 01:07 AM
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A Jan 18 hire is over 200 numbers from flowing. Your recruiter is lying to you.
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Old 01-24-2022, 05:10 AM
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How many people per month are going to United, etc? Could that number plus flow allow the Jan 18 guy flow to AA by the end of 2022?
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Old 01-24-2022, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB View Post
How many people per month are going to United, etc? Could that number plus flow allow the Jan 18 guy flow to AA by the end of 2022?
Accounting for outside attrition the Junior January 2018 hire is still probably 2 years and 4 months from flowing. Outside attrition drops dramatically once you are around 200 positions away from flowing. That would be right around 6.5 years to flow.

Look at the stock market today. Don’t expect steady state anything as you plan ahead.
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Old 01-26-2022, 01:06 PM
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Just want to thank everybody for their input. I got the offer and turned it down.
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Old 02-14-2022, 05:01 AM
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Just in:

MDT crew base effective May
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Old 02-14-2022, 05:18 AM
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Just in:

MDT crew base effective May
Good to see. Quite a few local to that area who will be happy to bid it.
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Old 02-14-2022, 05:22 AM
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Where is info?
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