Republic is giving phl fos right how 15 to 16 days off and 80 to 85 hours pay.. ohhhh. And the hourly rate is better...

 

The SAP is definitely getting worse. The difference is when SAP worked better we could choose exactly which days we wanted off. Now, processing times are so long it’s a little harder to choose your specific days, but we can still manage 17-19 off. But that’s just at PSA. Research the Endeavor and Republic threads. They’re easily getting 18 days off while crediting over 80 hours a month. Some of them even get over 20 days off a month, although their credit might be closer to 70 hours. If they want 11 days off they’ll be crediting well over 110-120. And that’s not just the senior guys. Even the junior line holders can have those schedules. Not to mention they make close to 20 bucks an hour MORE. I think expressjet and Skywest and following suit with similar schedules.

If you don’t believe me, just research their threads or ask anyone you know at those places. I’m not making this up nor am I exaggerating. It’s not a few special cases. It’s the norm. Some of the Endeavor FOs are making around 100k which is close to if not more than what you’re making as a Piedmont DEC WITH your bonus. And they’re getting 11-12 days off just like you. Again, read their threads.

 

Well if the grass is so much greener everywhere else why does anyone still work at piedmont?

 

For the same reason other pilots stick with other substandard airlines ... They don't want to start over at the bottom, they have hopes of getting the call from a major, they already moved to their base and don't want to have to move again, (in our case) they don't want to give up their flow slot, etc.

IOW, it's not that the grass isn't greener, it's that the fence you gotta cross is a b!tch.

 

If you actually flew the line you would know we are loosing 2017 and 2018 hires to other regionals. You must have drank a huge glass of cool aid at your indoc.

 

well Guess it ain’t green enough. Doesn’t take that much effort to switch airlines. Especially since seniority doesn’t really do anything for ya at piedmont. Why would someone stay at Piedmont if it’s super easy to make 100k at Endeavor as an FO.

 

As we all know, senior pilots are still working 11 day off schedules here. That much is true. But, as you should know, there's a lot more that comes with seniority than how many days off you have. Giving up seniority at one airline to be at the bottom of the list at a different airline, even if it's a vastly better airline, comes at a cost.

Transactional costs change the value proposition. Someone that's been around a while has higher transactional costs than someone that's new or hasn't yet joined the company.

Anyone that understands the system should be able to understand why someone might pick seniority at a worse company over no seniority at a better company.

You say you're a DEC, but I'm starting to wonder if you've ever worked for an airline at all. Your argument sounds so naive.

 

That’s cute coming from someone who appears to have been in the industry less then one year.

 

That serves my point precisely. Even a cursory understanding of how airlines and the seniority system works is enough to conclude that your argument is weak. I could explain it to a non-pilot, and they'd be able to point out that the longer someone is with an airline, the less beneficial it becomes to change to another one.

Why you fail to grasp the concept, as someone that claims to have already been an airline pilot, is somewhat baffling. I guess we can just chalk it up to cognitive bias.

 

So why are you still here? What is so great that keeps you from going to another airline? Have you even flown the line yet?